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Post by mplssetter on Jan 28, 2011 1:30:48 GMT -5
Like I said, you just have to figure out who you can believe and who is full of it.
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Post by HeyHey on Jan 28, 2011 1:42:24 GMT -5
That silly. Brady's dream job has always been Minnesota and an extra 70 or 80K would make it even more of a dream for him. If winning 4 national championships in DII is so great, why would Brady want to go to Minnesota? Just for the money?
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Post by moody on Jan 28, 2011 1:45:57 GMT -5
That silly. Brady's dream job has always been Minnesota and an extra 70 or 80K would make it even more of a dream for him. If winning 4 national championships in DII is so great, why would Brady want to go to Minnesota? Just for the money? NO because Minnesota would certainly be the next level of challenge. Do I really have to point that out to you?
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Post by HeyHey on Jan 28, 2011 1:50:23 GMT -5
My point exactly - DII - meh
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Post by moody on Jan 28, 2011 1:53:31 GMT -5
My point exactly - DII - meh You really need to make a point before declaring one.
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Post by moody on Jan 28, 2011 1:56:46 GMT -5
Of course DI is a step up from DII but to win 4 National Championships in a row at the Division 2 level certainly shows a coach is ready for that next step. Brady would be a great hire for Minnesota.
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Post by HeyHey on Jan 28, 2011 2:06:15 GMT -5
Of course DI is a step up from DII but to win 4 National Championships in a row at the Division 2 level certainly shows a coach is ready for that next step. Brady would be a great hire for Minnesota. Since everything is based on opinons here, my opinion is that success at the DII level will not equate to success at the DI level.
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Post by moody on Jan 28, 2011 2:09:02 GMT -5
Of course DI is a step up from DII but to win 4 National Championships in a row at the Division 2 level certainly shows a coach is ready for that next step. Brady would be a great hire for Minnesota. Since everything is based on opinons here, my opinion is that success at the DII level will not equate to success at the DI level. 4 National Championships in a row is a bit more than just success. Just who do you think is in line for the Minnesota job that won't be "stepping up"?
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Post by NotKingOfAnything on Jan 28, 2011 7:03:13 GMT -5
To say Hugh declined because he doesn't meet the qualifications for the job does not make sense. UMN would be doing the "thanks but no thanks" part.
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Post by gogophers on Jan 28, 2011 7:29:28 GMT -5
Moody is very impressed with Starkey's Div II record. I'm wondering if other ADs are. Specifically, I'm wondering whether other Div I schools, like the U of Minn with a well-known and established program, have been chasing him to join their staff as head coach? Has he gotten other offers, or is it the U of Minn. the first major program to show such interest?
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Post by jcvball22 on Jan 28, 2011 8:03:48 GMT -5
Well, for all of people bantering around names and sounding quite snobby while doing it, here are the options Minnesota seems to have:
1. Hugh- which most can agree would be awesome for UMN, but is clearly very up in the air with all of the hoopla around the National Team, etc, etc.
2. Some other Division I coach from a program ranked lower than UMN who has shown some success or has some ties to the school. Realistically, they are not likely to draw a coach from a program that has been perennially above them (mostly because a lot of those coaches are from warmer climates and likely don't own parkas and/or would look terrible in a gold and maroon sweater)
3. Brady Starkey, a very successful Division II coach who has managed 4 National Titles with less funding, fewer resources and less talent than would be available at Minnesota. But regardless of what the snobs are bantering around, 4 National Titles in a row in any Division is difficult. Just ask Russ.
So, to sum things up, outside of landing Hugh, every other person who takes this position will be taking a STEP UP. And a rather big one for most of them. Their success or failure will likely depend on the support they get. I hope UMN does what is best for the girls, future recruits and the school. And i don't pretend to know what that is, but I certainly know, that whomever they choose deserves the respect and support of all of you UMN fans, because they will need it. This position will be a challenge for anyone, because Mike was a hell of a coach and will be very difficult to replace.
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Post by ohbackintheday on Jan 28, 2011 8:10:41 GMT -5
I will say it again 4 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. Brady can coach. Brady can recruit. Brady would be a great fit for Minnesota. I'm sorry but 4 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS in DII translates to 4 national championships to me. In other words, I don't find it nearly as impressive as you do. Call me a DI snob. i don't know much about what is going on or who half of these people are but... there's a coach that coached football for a smaller school D1 Youngstown State won a few national titles, went on to a big 10 school Ohio State, and is doing quite well. I think he's even won a national title and competed for a couple more. His name is Jim Tressle.. have you heard of him? A WINNER IS A WINNER. Just sayin'.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 28, 2011 8:23:31 GMT -5
I'm sorry but 4 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS in DII translates to 4 national championships to me. In other words, I don't find it nearly as impressive as you do. Call me a DI snob. i don't know much about what is going on or who half of these people are but... there's a coach that coached football for a smaller school D1 Youngstown State won a few national titles, went on to a big 10 school Ohio State, and is doing quite well. I think he's even won a national title and competed for a couple more. His name is Jim Tressle.. have you heard of him? A WINNER IS A WINNER. Just sayin'. Extrapolation in either direction is a gamble. The jump between DI and DII is not as big as say the jump between high school and DI, but look at the successes that Dave Shondell has had at Purdue. Steve Shondell will probably make all the naysayers look stupid too, but there is limited data on him. BUT. Coming from DII to DI, even with four national championships does not necessarily guarantee success, it just evens out the odds a bit.
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Post by karellen on Jan 28, 2011 8:50:51 GMT -5
DII coaches have had success (Ed Allen was a three year DII coach before getting the Tulsa job and he turned that into a Top 20 program in 5 years) at the DI level and would appear to be getting more attention from DI administrators. There is another DII head coach under consideration for teh Tulsa job now and a highly successful DII coach was in the running at Alabama as well.
I think Brady is a solid candidate for the Minnesota job. I am still not convinced he wants the job. I know others have said he has referred to it as his dream job, but that does not mean the timing is right for him to go after it at this time.
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Post by pancake83 on Jan 28, 2011 9:19:40 GMT -5
...and now we are at 50 pages, and NOTHING really. Joel Maturi: please pick a Head Coach so we can start a new thread on Volleytalk. HEAR MY PLEA!!
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