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Post by silversurfer on Feb 7, 2011 16:27:36 GMT -5
As is almost always the case in these instances, no one really knows the answer to this except Scott (and anyone he chooses to tell). However for whatever reasons, I heard that he was never really in the picture, in terms of getting the HC position. I understand that he was a long shot for the perm HC position but I don't understand the passing over on the interim position. I believe he would second that emotion.
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Post by nooram on Feb 7, 2011 16:37:13 GMT -5
It sounds as though Scott might end up on his feet out west
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Post by bkedane on Feb 7, 2011 16:47:52 GMT -5
Unless he was and declined after being passed over the first time. Also, he could be looking for a more stable position than that of an interim. As is almost always the case in these instances, no one really knows the answer to this except Scott (and anyone he chooses to tell). However for whatever reasons, I heard that he was never really in the picture, in terms of getting the HC position. Some other people do know besides Swanson. Namely, the people who were involved in making the decisions and those they have talked with. The most likely explanation is that the incoming coach had lots of input into the interim position and preferred other candidates to Swanson.
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Post by silversurfer on Feb 7, 2011 16:53:46 GMT -5
As is almost always the case in these instances, no one really knows the answer to this except Scott (and anyone he chooses to tell). However for whatever reasons, I heard that he was never really in the picture, in terms of getting the HC position. Some other people do know besides Swanson. Namely, the people who were involved in making the decisions and those they have talked with. The most likely explanation is that the incoming coach had lots of input into the interim position and preferred other candidates to Swanson. Which is fine. Can't fault a guy for knowing what he wants. It's just unfortunate. But I'm sure Scott'll rebound.
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Post by austintatious on Feb 7, 2011 17:00:21 GMT -5
Scott is a class act, and will land on his feet. My question would be does his resume warrant serious discussion as HC at MN? I don't know much of his history at UTEP or earlier. Much success? I am not doubting, just asking if he had the credentials.
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Post by spikerthemovie on Feb 7, 2011 17:10:03 GMT -5
If, as others have said, he was the "bad cop" to Hebert's "good cop," that might not be conducive to making the switch to HC, which would not necessarily be a problem at another program.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Feb 7, 2011 17:54:51 GMT -5
I don't have a rooting interest in this banter but I believe by underset, ay, meant 'didn't set enough balls to' at least that is how I read it. Yes, Keystone knows this...underset means number of attempts given NOT the ratio of kills to attempts. He's just showing his *ss for no particular reason.....le sigh, the off season. I think this is a simple misunderstanding of word choice. When I first read your comment, ay, I thought you were using "underset" ="set the ball in a location too low for her middles to swing at". It was only after further consideration that I realized it made more sense to interpret your intent as being "underset"="did not give them enough attempts, chose to set other players more often". From reading Keystone's reply, it appears he had the same first interpretation that I had, and therefore he responded to you with evidence of the middles' very successful hitting efficiency, which wouldn't of course be relevant to the raw number of attempts, but would qualify as evidence that Glass wasn't consistently setting the ball too low, because if she had been, the middles couldn't have had such incredible efficiency.
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Post by simplycurious on Feb 8, 2011 1:32:25 GMT -5
I posted this on the Jobs thread, but thought it was relevant here too. Scott Swanson visited South Carolina recently about their vacancy. I figured with the rash of posts hoping he lands on his feet, that people here would be interested in this information.
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Post by karellen on Feb 8, 2011 7:52:27 GMT -5
I have heard many people talking about this situation and one thing surprises me - there seems to be a belief out there that being the interim is a bad job. I do not understand that at all.
For two years you get to be in charge of one of the premier program in the country. If you do well, your resume just got covered in gold. You can go out and tell recruits that they will get the opportunity to play for the head coach of the national team. Not only will they be interested in playing for that coach, but it could give them an "in" to the national team. When Hugh does come along, the interim could stay on as an assistant (maybe a little awkward, but not a bad gig if it is set up properly with the team during those two years), or move on to your own job.
To me the question is not "Who would want that job?" - it is "Who wouldn't want that job?"
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Post by bkedane on Feb 8, 2011 7:58:37 GMT -5
karellen is right that lots of good candidates correctly view the interim job as a good job. But very few were contacted about it.
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Post by Keystonekid on Feb 8, 2011 9:28:42 GMT -5
Yes, Keystone knows this...underset means number of attempts given NOT the ratio of kills to attempts. He's just showing his *ss for no particular reason.....le sigh, the off season. I think this is a simple misunderstanding of word choice. When I first read your comment, ay, I thought you were using "underset" ="set the ball in a location too low for her middles to swing at". It was only after further consideration that I realized it made more sense to interpret your intent as being "underset"="did not give them enough attempts, chose to set other players more often". From reading Keystone's reply, it appears he had the same first interpretation that I had, and therefore he responded to you with evidence of the middles' very successful hitting efficiency, which wouldn't of course be relevant to the raw number of attempts, but would qualify as evidence that Glass wasn't consistently setting the ball too low, because if she had been, the middles couldn't have had such incredible efficiency. Underset always relates to how the ball was set, under utilized was his point. When someone pointed out what he meant, I acknowledged that and agreed as I did with his entire point of why Fawcett played all six rotations.
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Post by goGopherBill on Feb 8, 2011 10:10:50 GMT -5
Quote " To me the question is not "Who would want that job?" - it is "Who wouldn't want that job?"
Me and about any other sane person.
This garbage about running a program knowing its only for 2 years is crazy.
It would show lack of understanding on leadership at so many levels.
1 . Terrible recruiting made even harder . We have discussed what a stable coaching position means in any sport.. business or political arena means.. interim on any of those levels never works out either. It is all about recruiting going forward...
2. Who would want to work for this?? Only some one who is desperate enough to take any job and money offered. Why would someone take an assistant job over this HC job.. gee wonder why.
3. COST.. you save money on the interim guy..but the new guy coming in would hold all the negotiating chips in their salary discussions.What AD would so that ? Yes..ours.
4. What if the new guy wins big...and then gets let go..? would you want to play for anyone who goes that route? Great recruiting tool I say..
5 . What if the new guy LOSES big..dont worry ..in 2 years we'll get our preferred coach.. See ya fan base..recruiting base and booster base.. Taking 2 years of losing in an already hard conference just to get another unknown result later is NOT going to fly.
Mike spoiled us. We are not going to accept the woman's basketball program or mens football program results. At least I wont.
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Post by volleyhead on Feb 8, 2011 10:27:29 GMT -5
18 months isn't that long but it's enough to seriously set back a program especially if some of the remaining players do not want to play for the "interim coach" and decide to leave. Telling players they are "going to play for the national team coach" won't work in women's volleyball. These players want to meet Hugh and hear his plan for them and start to develop trust with him. The best thing for Minnesota is for Hugh to take the job now...the best thing for the National Team is for Hugh to not take the job at all. It will be interesting to see how it works out if they go the interim route and who it is and what affect it has on the current players.
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Post by Keystonekid on Feb 8, 2011 10:34:49 GMT -5
18 months isn't that long but it's enough to seriously set back a program especially if some of the remaining players do not want to play for the "interim coach" and decide to leave. Telling players they are "going to play for the national team coach" won't work in women's volleyball. These players want to meet Hugh and hear his plan for them and start to develop trust with him. The best thing for Minnesota is for Hugh to take the job now...the best thing for the National Team is for Hugh to not take the job at all. It will be interesting to see how it works out if they go the interim route and who it is and what affect it has on the current players. The issue to me is they have four scholarships in 2012 and no commitments. It is so competitive in the big 10, if you lose significant ground its very difficult to make that up. The job he is accepting now, may be very different from the one he inherits in two years.
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Post by notpriddy (COIF) on Feb 8, 2011 10:39:09 GMT -5
The suspense is killing me! Is the interim coaching position the hold-up? Or is the Minnesota AD the type of person that loves to pull wings off of butterflies?
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