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Post by iheartvb on Feb 8, 2011 10:39:59 GMT -5
Two Questions:
1. Is it a know fact that Hugh will be coming to Minnesota? Or is all this based on speculation, rumors or hopefullness that Minnesota will land him?
2. How is it that almost every thread on this board gets hijacked by PSU fans? I admire PSU for what they have accomplished but this thread is supposed to be about the future of the U's volleyball program.
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Post by Keystonekid on Feb 8, 2011 10:42:14 GMT -5
Two Questions: 1. Is it a know fact that Hugh will be coming to Minnesota? Or is all this based on speculation, rumors or hopefullness that Minnesota will land him? 2. How is it that almost every thread on this board gets hijacked by PSU fans? I admire PSU for what they have accomplished but this thread is supposed to be about the future of the U's volleyball program. Highjacked? There were about 6 posts. Hugh unless he about faces, will be the coach at UM.
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Post by ugopher on Feb 8, 2011 10:43:25 GMT -5
18 months isn't that long but it's enough to seriously set back a program especially if some of the remaining players do not want to play for the "interim coach" and decide to leave. Telling players they are "going to play for the national team coach" won't work in women's volleyball. These players want to meet Hugh and hear his plan for them and start to develop trust with him. The best thing for Minnesota is for Hugh to take the job now...the best thing for the National Team is for Hugh to not take the job at all. It will be interesting to see how it works out if they go the interim route and who it is and what affect it has on the current players. The issue to me is they have four scholarships in 2012 and no commitments. It is so competitive in the big 10, if you lose significant ground its very difficult to make that up. The job he is accepting now, may be very different from the one he inherits in two years. Which would be a good reason, if he does want the job, to take it now. I have heard MN has received one 2012 commitment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2011 10:48:36 GMT -5
Underset always relates to how the ball was set, Actually it doesn't. Most of the time it refers to the undercurrent in the ocean. ;D
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Post by abugslife on Feb 8, 2011 11:13:00 GMT -5
My conclusion is that Hugh will be coach and Laura Bush- no not the first lady will be interim! How awkward is that to be named after the former president's wife!! Can you imagine calling recruits!!
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Post by karellen on Feb 8, 2011 11:27:19 GMT -5
goGopherBill - I agree with most of the points you are making. However, the negatives you are describing (losing matches, fan base, support, etc....) are true with any new coach and could lead to another unknown in a couple of years when that coach gets fired.
Is there a risk with the "Interim Coach" path? Of course, just like any other new hire. You are also right about not accepting anything less than what Mike has built there - you have a GREAT program.
However, you can not tell me that this is a fatal path when it has already worked elsewhere. The right coach will come in and maintain what Mike is leaving and get recruits to continue the success just like Elliot did when he was at USC and Mick was still with the national team. Hugh can even help his cause by inviting the top high school kids to national team workouts just like Mick did. Those kids were not trying out for the national team, they were trying out for USC.
After two years with an interim coach, USC won mulitple national championships.
This situation is not the kiss of death you think it is. And coaches not in need of a job or a payday will be interested. The right coach (the goal of any hiring process) can and will make this a positive for the Gophers.
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Post by nooram on Feb 8, 2011 11:31:01 GMT -5
Do you think Hugh can be successfull in getting air-conditioning installed in the Pavilion?
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Post by ugopher on Feb 8, 2011 12:02:31 GMT -5
goGopherBill - I agree with most of the points you are making. However, the negatives you are describing (losing matches, fan base, support, etc....) are true with any new coach and could lead to another unknown in a couple of years when that coach gets fired. Is there a risk with the "Interim Coach" path? Of course, just like any other new hire. You are also right about not accepting anything less than what Mike has built there - you have a GREAT program. However, you can not tell me that this is a fatal path when it has already worked elsewhere. The right coach will come in and maintain what Mike is leaving and get recruits to continue the success just like Elliot did when he was at USC and Mick was still with the national team. Hugh can even help his cause by inviting the top high school kids to national team workouts just like Mick did. Those kids were not trying out for the national team, they were trying out for USC. After two years with an interim coach, USC won mulitple national championships. This situation is not the kiss of death you think it is. And coaches not in need of a job or a payday will be interested. The right coach (the goal of any hiring process) can and will make this a positive for the Gophers. I'm just happy that GoGopherBill has removed himself from consideration! ;D
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Post by goGopherBill on Feb 8, 2011 13:56:11 GMT -5
That's low..but correct..I wont work anywhere as any interim. for any position in any field.
No one in their right mind would.
You hire an interim when you Fire a person..or a person dies..retires..or gets hurt.
To be hired as such is just as bad..almost a kiss of death for future positions.
So ..while we hire a CHEAP interim coach and get maybe a 60% record.. and players transfer out..or dont come.. you can always go to Northern Iowa's games.Wisconsin..or Concordia.
How many businesses and other sports wait this long ?
Only in MN.
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Post by HeyHey on Feb 8, 2011 14:01:17 GMT -5
To quote Bill. "You hire an interim when you Fire a person..or a person dies..RETIRES..or gets hurt."
Didn't someone RETIRE from the MN coaching job?
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Post by stillcrazy on Feb 8, 2011 14:01:29 GMT -5
...To be hired as such is just as bad..almost a kiss of death for future positions.... Ya, Jerritt's career went in the tank after USC.
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Post by simplycurious on Feb 8, 2011 14:10:50 GMT -5
That's low..but correct..I wont work anywhere as any interim. for any position in any field. No one in their right mind would. You hire an interim when you Fire a person..or a person dies..retires..or gets hurt. To be hired as such is just as bad..almost a kiss of death for future positions. So ..while we hire a CHEAP interim coach and get maybe a 60% record.. and players transfer out..or dont come.. you can always go to Northern Iowa's games.Wisconsin..or Concordia. How many businesses and other sports wait this long ? Only in MN. Then goGopherBill, by your own arguments, it appears you've suddenly lost all faith in Laura! Despite her being with the program for three years, playing an integral role in the current condition of the program, knowing (and being well liked by) the current players on the team (not to mention her relationship with future recruits) - she's still not good enough for you? Wow, that hardly seems like the type of "fan support" I'd want if I was looking at the MN job - maybe it's not too late for Hugh to reconsider!
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Post by varsityblue on Feb 8, 2011 14:17:37 GMT -5
Did I miss something? Was there a official notice of this hire? or is this all a guess again? I'm guessing it's just talk.....
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Post by austintatious on Feb 8, 2011 14:47:29 GMT -5
goGopherBill - I agree with most of the points you are making. However, the negatives you are describing (losing matches, fan base, support, etc....) are true with any new coach and could lead to another unknown in a couple of years when that coach gets fired. Is there a risk with the "Interim Coach" path? Of course, just like any other new hire. You are also right about not accepting anything less than what Mike has built there - you have a GREAT program. However, you can not tell me that this is a fatal path when it has already worked elsewhere. The right coach will come in and maintain what Mike is leaving and get recruits to continue the success just like Elliot did when he was at USC and Mick was still with the national team. Hugh can even help his cause by inviting the top high school kids to national team workouts just like Mick did. Those kids were not trying out for the national team, they were trying out for USC. After two years with an interim coach, USC won mulitple national championships. This situation is not the kiss of death you think it is. And coaches not in need of a job or a payday will be interested. The right coach (the goal of any hiring process) can and will make this a positive for the Gophers. Gopher Bill is just upset Leonid didn't get the job! Maybe he could take interim and then move to Florida.
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Post by nooram on Feb 8, 2011 15:22:44 GMT -5
Did I miss something? Was there a official notice of this hire? or is this all a guess again? I'm guessing it's just talk..... . . . but very informed talk
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