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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 31, 2011 10:39:05 GMT -5
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Post by Pirate VB Fan on Aug 31, 2011 10:43:06 GMT -5
Does volleyball have a lower limit cutoff for automatic qualifier status?
Of course, if the Big 12 (9?) is to survive Texas, oops, sorry, the Big 12, will have to recruit more schools as I believe there is a minimum to maintain BCS status in football.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Aug 31, 2011 10:46:21 GMT -5
They would be absolute fools to join unless they want to kiss Texas's backside for the rest of their days.
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Post by sizzlincatfish on Aug 31, 2011 11:03:24 GMT -5
They would be absolute fools to join unless they want to kiss Texas's backside for the rest of their days. I'm sure there are schools that wouldn't mind having access to the conference's money, even understanding that Texas is ruling the roost. It would still be a move up for a Mountain West school, or Conference USA.
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Post by baywatcher on Aug 31, 2011 11:24:13 GMT -5
Kind of surprised A&M is turning it's back on tradition, neighbors, hurting recruiting, even potentially money. The conference deal with Texas must be really haywire.
Eight teams in a conference seems like a reasonable number if you're not up to 12 and conference championship matches.
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Post by nitneliun on Aug 31, 2011 11:27:12 GMT -5
The only school that really wants to keep the Big 12 together is Texas. Every other school would like to bolt and quite a few of them are actively exploring ways to do just that.
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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 31, 2011 11:31:24 GMT -5
Im sure the UT fans will have a different view of things, but its pretty evident how the other schools feel. You have Texas. You have the schools given their situation have no choice but to take what they get, and the others who say "screw this, im outta here. Texas is interestingly enough both breaking the conference apart, AND keeping it together. While Im sure Texas hopes to keep the conference together, if it fails they still land on their feet because, the PAC 10, Big Ten and SEC would kill to have them. However, Texas wont be able to get a bigger slice of the pie. Im sure there are other variables, but that is the meat and potatoes of the situation.
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Post by upyours on Aug 31, 2011 12:07:34 GMT -5
The only school that really wants to keep the Big 12 together is Texas. Every other school would like to bolt and quite a few of them are actively exploring ways to do just that. What an ignorant statement. The other schools are the ones who worked to keep the conference together last summer. They did this because they wanted to leave??!! The Big 12 is an elite conference with big BCS money and TV contracts. Most schools would die to be in the Big 12. I think this is a huge mistake for A&M. Huge. I would not be surprised to see them crawling back after 3-4 years in the SEC.
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Post by southie on Aug 31, 2011 12:20:20 GMT -5
Im sure the UT fans will have a different view of things, but its pretty evident how the other schools feel. You have Texas. You have the schools given their situation have no choice but to take what they get, and the others who say "screw this, im outta here. Texas is interestingly enough both breaking the conference apart, AND keeping it together. While Im sure Texas hopes to keep the conference together, if it fails they still land on their feet because, the PAC 10, Big Ten and SEC would kill to have them. However, Texas wont be able to get a bigger slice of the pie. Im sure there are other variables, but that is the meat and potatoes of the situation. Isn't that how the "other" Big 8 schools felt when Nebraska and Oklahoma were king in that conference back in the day? There isn't a single conference which is made of just "bigs". Some schools which don't bring as much to the table are part of every conference. The conference members, who each have one vote, decide collectively how that conference is run. You keep posting over and over again that Texas has so much power in the Big 12 and runs the show, but you haven't provided any facts to support that, IIRC.
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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 31, 2011 12:22:58 GMT -5
The only school that really wants to keep the Big 12 together is Texas. Every other school would like to bolt and quite a few of them are actively exploring ways to do just that. What an ignorant statement. The other schools are the ones who worked to keep the conference together last summer. They did this because they wanted to leave??!! The Big 12 is an elite conference with big BCS money and TV contracts. Most schools would die to be in the Big 12. I think this is a huge mistake for A&M. Huge. I would not be surprised to see them crawling back after 3-4 years in the SEC. why is this a huge mistake for A&M? all the superlatives you listed for the Big 12 the SEC has as well. I dont get it.
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Post by rampageripster on Aug 31, 2011 12:30:36 GMT -5
The only school that really wants to keep the Big 12 together is Texas. Every other school would like to bolt and quite a few of them are actively exploring ways to do just that. What an ignorant statement. The other schools are the ones who worked to keep the conference together last summer. They did this because they wanted to leave??!! The Big 12 is an elite conference with big BCS money and TV contracts. Most schools would die to be in the Big 12. I think this is a huge mistake for A&M. Huge. I would not be surprised to see them crawling back after 3-4 years in the SEC. this may be the biggest homeristic comment I have ever seen on this board (which is saying something considering PSU and MPSF fans...)... the B12 is a dead man walking... the writing is on the wall. Last expansion round the conference nearly blew up and EVERYONE was looking for new homes
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 31, 2011 12:31:29 GMT -5
The only school that really wants to keep the Big 12 together is Texas. Every other school would like to bolt and quite a few of them are actively exploring ways to do just that. Every other school? Really? Link please.
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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 31, 2011 12:35:18 GMT -5
Im sure the UT fans will have a different view of things, but its pretty evident how the other schools feel. You have Texas. You have the schools given their situation have no choice but to take what they get, and the others who say "screw this, im outta here. Texas is interestingly enough both breaking the conference apart, AND keeping it together. While Im sure Texas hopes to keep the conference together, if it fails they still land on their feet because, the PAC 10, Big Ten and SEC would kill to have them. However, Texas wont be able to get a bigger slice of the pie. Im sure there are other variables, but that is the meat and potatoes of the situation. Isn't that how the "other" Big 8 schools felt when Nebraska and Oklahoma were king in that conference back in the day? There isn't a single conference which is made of just "bigs". Some schools which don't bring as much to the table are part of every conference. The conference members, who each have one vote, decide collectively how that conference is run. You keep posting over and over again that Texas has so much power in the Big 12 and runs the show, but you haven't provided any facts to support that, IIRC. Can I ask you why you think A&M left the Big 12? While Texas has the same vote, it doesnt mean they dont have more power. ISU potentially leaving doesnt jeopardize the whole conference. Texas does. When Texas was going to leave, those schools would have agreed to anything, and did. Including Texas having their own independent Network that will sell millions of subscriptions of which member shcools dont see a nickel of. Texas has more money than anyone, if you dont think that gives them more power, you need a civics lesson. As ive said a million times, im not blaming Texas for doing what anyone in their position would. I havent seen anyone in any medium who see's the conference situation your way, with the exception of Texas supporters, and I get that as well.
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Post by NebraskaVBfan93 on Aug 31, 2011 12:39:05 GMT -5
Gene Stallings on Big 12 falling apart: "(Texas) had a little sumthin to do w/causing the breakup. Texas A&M didn't cause it."
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 31, 2011 12:41:20 GMT -5
Isn't that how the "other" Big 8 schools felt when Nebraska and Oklahoma were king in that conference back in the day? There isn't a single conference which is made of just "bigs". Some schools which don't bring as much to the table are part of every conference. The conference members, who each have one vote, decide collectively how that conference is run. You keep posting over and over again that Texas has so much power in the Big 12 and runs the show, but you haven't provided any facts to support that, IIRC. Can I ask you why you think A&M left the Big 12? While Texas has the same vote, it doesnt mean they dont have more power. ISU potentially leaving doesnt jeopardize the whole conference. Texas does. When Texas was going to leave, those schools would have agreed to anything, and did. Including Texas having their own independent Network that will sell millions of subscriptions of which member shcools dont see a nickel of. Texas has more money than anyone, if you dont think that gives them more power, you need a civics lesson. As ive said a million times, im not blaming Texas for doing what anyone in their position would. I havent seen anyone in any medium who see's the conference situation your way, with the exception of Texas supporters, and I get that as well. you would have to understand A&M's little brother mentality to even attempt to understand them. They are driven to being equal or greater than Texas. Listen to an aggie and all they talk about is Texas, Texas, Texas. After years in the football wilderness, they finally have their football program nearing elite status in the Big 12. But now they are headed for obscurity in the SEC. That's Aggie.
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