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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 11, 2011 12:00:12 GMT -5
Since I think coconut tastes extremely unpleasant, does that mean you should not eat it? Really? equating coconuts to practicing zoophilia? Fine to each his own... I for one think they are both sick. plus I don't care for coconuts either.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 11, 2011 12:05:19 GMT -5
Dude, you were the one who drug in zoophilia from somewhere.
I've never even dated more than one person at a time, but as long as nobody is being deceived or forced into it, I figure that whatever adult humans want to do with each other is their business.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 12:18:11 GMT -5
I like zoos a lot. Is that bad?
Here's a question. Were the polygamous Mormons committing adultery? Cheating?
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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 11, 2011 12:36:42 GMT -5
I like zoos a lot. Is that bad? Here's a question. Were the polygamous Mormons committing adultery? Cheating? Yes.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 11, 2011 12:41:46 GMT -5
Here's a question. Were the polygamous Mormons committing adultery? Cheating? In many traditional value systems, sex outside of marriage is a crime of theft from a woman's husband (or father, if she is not married), while polygamy is a respected status.
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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 11, 2011 12:43:03 GMT -5
Dude, you were the one who drug in zoophilia from somewhere. Only because you said: If you don't like "it" then don't do it. So I brought up the question of, if I don't like "it" - it being zoophilia- then don't do it , makes it ok for others to do it? I've never even dated more than one person at a time, but as long as nobody is being deceived or forced into it, I figure that whatever adult humans want to do with each other is their business. Yes but then it kind of ruins the meaning of "marriage". They can do whatever they want. I only have to answer for my own actions. But depicting marriage as such as ugly and disgusting "thing" just got my guts turning over...
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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 11, 2011 12:47:27 GMT -5
Here's a question. Were the polygamous Mormons committing adultery? Cheating? In many traditional value systems, sex outside of marriage is a crime of theft from a woman's husband (or father, if she is not married), while polygamy is a respected status. Torah and Bible both clearly state: One man One woman. Not sure where the polygamous Mormons got the idea that it was ok? Islam on the other hand gives the man the rights for having up to 40 concubines. Not sure why 41 would not be ok? ;D Cannot imagine any self respecting female want to convert to Islam but whateva ;D
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 11, 2011 13:52:57 GMT -5
Torah and Bible both clearly state: One man One woman. Say what? How many wives did Solomon have? Abraham himself had at least two wives.
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Post by NebraskaVBfan93 on Oct 11, 2011 14:08:23 GMT -5
Torah and Bible both clearly state: One man One woman. Say what? How many wives did Solomon have? 700. But because he had them doesn't make it right or means that it met with God's approval.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 11, 2011 14:16:09 GMT -5
Say what? How many wives did Solomon have? 700. But because he had them doesn't make it right or means that it met with God's approval. I just find it amusing how many people claim that the bible is the infallible moral teaching of God, and then immediately handwave away all the slavery, polygamy, genocide, etc. -- much of which was clearly stated as being approved or commanded or even conducted directly by God. I think most Christians have a mental image of the bible which is highly filtered through the polarizing lens of rationalization.
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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 11, 2011 14:17:10 GMT -5
Say what? How many wives did Solomon have? 700. But because he had them doesn't make it right or means that it met with God's approval. True. I should have said Torah implies one man one woman. Bible states it. When what's his name took on another wife because he did not trust God that his 80 year old wife would conceive, God cursed the act and the child. I am pretty sure on this one!
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Post by NebraskaVBfan93 on Oct 11, 2011 14:30:55 GMT -5
700. But because he had them doesn't make it right or means that it met with God's approval. True. I should have said Torah implies one man one woman. Bible states it. When what's his name took on another wife because he did not trust God that his 80 year old wife would conceive, God cursed the act and the child. I am pretty sure on this one! The "whats his name" you speak of would be Abraham. The "other woman" was Hagar who gave birth to Ishmael whom is very important in Islam as it is through his lineage that Muhammad was born.
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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 11, 2011 14:48:58 GMT -5
True. I should have said Torah implies one man one woman. Bible states it. When what's his name took on another wife because he did not trust God that his 80 year old wife would conceive, God cursed the act and the child. I am pretty sure on this one! The "whats his name" you speak of would be Abraham. The "other woman" was Hagar who gave birth to Ishmael whom is very important in Islam as it is through his lineage that Muhammad was born. Yup. You are %100 correct.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 6:30:35 GMT -5
Here's a question. Were the polygamous Mormons committing adultery? Cheating? In many traditional value systems, sex outside of marriage is a crime of theft from a woman's husband (or father, if she is not married), while polygamy is a respected status. define "many". i assume you deliberately chose to use "many", mike, as you could not honestly use "most". "many" implies less than half, which would place such value systems in the minority, which means that most value systems do not condone either women-as-property or polygamy -- based on your statement. yes?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 7:03:29 GMT -5
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