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Post by Phaedrus on Oct 17, 2011 13:34:05 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/us/hair-cutting-attacks-stir-fear-in-amish-ohio.html?hpOK, the attacks and internecine warfare isn't funny, and terrorizing people is serious, but I keep thinking about the Amish West Side Story, with switchblade wielding Amish hoods in long flowing beards and pretty girls with their hair up in a large bun. Or Michael Jackson in Amish garb singing Beat It in front of draft horses. or guys in leather jackets inscribed with "Amish Angels".
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Post by BearClause on Oct 18, 2011 11:19:45 GMT -5
From my reading of news stories on these guys, they're more like a splinter group.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 18, 2011 11:48:36 GMT -5
Isolated religious splinter groups, especially those under the control of a single older man, rarely end well. They are usually full of abusive relationships and often react violently to anyone daring to question the authority of the leader and/or leave the group.
This fits the pattern very well. It's all one-and-the-same with David Koresh, Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite, Warren Jeffs, et al.
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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 18, 2011 13:49:14 GMT -5
Hold on a second! "Call 911"? Isn't that using technology?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 14:05:33 GMT -5
I had a friend that lived on a farm and they had this tiny shack out in the middle of a field. Turns out it was on the boundary between their land and their neighbors land. Yup they were amish. The shack had a phone, phonebook, pencil, and paper. They (the surrounding amish families as well) were allowed to use the phone whenever they needed it.
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Post by BearClause on Oct 18, 2011 14:53:59 GMT -5
I had a friend that lived on a farm and they had this tiny shack out in the middle of a field. Turns out it was on the boundary between their land and their neighbors land. Yup they were amish. The shack had a phone, phonebook, pencil, and paper. They (the surrounding amish families as well) were allowed to use the phone whenever they needed it. Some of the newer ones seem to be modern prefab designs. A lot of the older ones seem to be traditional hand-built wood structures.   The supposed reasons for this is to get access to the outside world for business reasons. However, placing the phones in out of the way places discourages them from using phones for casual communications. Quite a few Amish families now have cell phones and other mobile devices.  |
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Post by psumaui on Oct 18, 2011 16:24:02 GMT -5
I had a friend that lived on a farm and they had this tiny shack out in the middle of a field. Turns out it was on the boundary between their land and their neighbors land. Yup they were amish. The shack had a phone, phonebook, pencil, and paper. They (the surrounding amish families as well) were allowed to use the phone whenever they needed it. Some of the newer ones seem to be modern prefab designs. A lot of the older ones seem to be traditional hand-built wood structures. The supposed reasons for this is to get access to the outside world for business reasons. However, placing the phones in out of the way places discourages them from using phones for casual communications. Quite a few Amish families now have cell phones and other mobile devices. As for modern technology, it depends on what church they belong to. White buggy dresses one way, Black buggy dresses another way and so forth. Each church(designated by buggy color) is different and allows different things. I used to work with Amish and they explained how things are done with different churches and that they can change churches if they want and some do just to be able to get some technology that their church would not allow them to have. If they change churches then they have to wear the clothes of that church. Kids can have cars, cell phones and other technologies until they become an adult and if they go the Amish way they have to give them up unless their church allows it. This is a way to give them a taste of the outside world and when they become a certain age they have to chose between the outsiders way and the Amish way. No Amish are allowed to drive after they become an Adult as long as they belong to the Amish world and they lose most of the technology they had when they were kids. If they chose to go the outsiders way they are many times shunned and banned from being a part of Amish life. If you want to make some money just find some Amish that need someone to drive them places you can be their paid driver and they pay good. Also, many people confuse Amish and Mennonite's. These two groups nowadays are like apples and oranges. Mennonite's can do just about anything they want to do including relationships with individuals outside their group. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 18, 2011 16:30:14 GMT -5
If you want to make some money just find some Amish that need someone to drive them places you can be their paid driver. Ah, the silliness of people.... Exactly how is it more spiritually pure to hire someone to do something than it is to do it yourself? And yet, this is not an attitude isolated to the Amish. This business of isolating oneself from the dirty work is extremely common. |
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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 18, 2011 19:00:25 GMT -5
If you want to make some money just find some Amish that need someone to drive them places you can be their paid driver. Ah, the silliness of people.... Exactly how is it more spiritually pure to hire someone to do something than it is to do it yourself? And yet, this is not an attitude isolated to the Amish. This business of isolating oneself from the dirty work is extremely common. +10000 |
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