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Post by eastcoastvb on Feb 19, 2007 16:40:59 GMT -5
I know USA Volleyball has them for $36 w/o shipping
and AVCA has them for $35 w/o shipping
anybody know anybody else who has it for cheaper?
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Post by fingrbustr on Feb 19, 2007 16:47:27 GMT -5
How many are you planning on buying? If not a ton, those are both pretty good rates. USA Volleyball is pretty good on ball bags and carts too.
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Post by eastcoastvb on Feb 19, 2007 16:55:56 GMT -5
finger: 10 for now and about 28 for our next fall season.
I just wanted to make sure I was getting the best deal before I placed my order.
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Post by fingrbustr on Feb 19, 2007 18:35:31 GMT -5
I'm assuming you're buying men's volleyballs (Pro Touch/V58L-3) versus the womens/girls model (Super-Touch/IV8L-3). Ten @ $36/ea is a solid price IMO. Incidentally, have you ever noticed some boys programs use the blue/white NCAA ball (IV8L-N)? Sometimes it appears to be purely color-scheme motivated. Cracks me up, haha. I love to be the one to point out to them they're using "girl" balls  |
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Post by cougvb on Feb 19, 2007 18:38:51 GMT -5
Am I the only one who didn't know there were different volleyballs for men and women?
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Post by peluche on Feb 19, 2007 18:49:24 GMT -5
yea you are
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Post by fingrbustr on Feb 19, 2007 18:53:09 GMT -5
Hmmm. You + the directors of the boys programs I've seen using the blue/white balls ;D
(only kidding)
The women's balls are lighter, and less diameter, I believe. And even well-inflated, they still feel softer. They're much, much lighter...you can tell immediately when you bump them.
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Post by setter on Feb 19, 2007 20:11:19 GMT -5
ebay.com
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Post by eastcoastvb on Feb 19, 2007 21:05:34 GMT -5
I was of course looking for pro-touches, the soft touch feeling like they are inflated with helium.
By the way if you check the molten website they have the NCAA ball and now a "composite leather" Please dont tell me it is going to be like the NBA b-ball fiasco.
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Post by fingrbustr on Feb 19, 2007 22:28:05 GMT -5
If it's done right I don't think it'll be a bad ball. The Mikasa MVP200 (Olympic ball) is composite leather and it's an awesome ball to play with. The surface has super grip, which complements those w/ a fast setting release IMO (amazing how fast you can shoot them around). The Mikasa is also friendly to those that know how to correctly put topspin on the ball...it's all about the grip!
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Post by BearClause on Feb 19, 2007 23:37:06 GMT -5
Hmmm. You + the directors of the boys programs I've seen using the blue/white balls ;D (only kidding) The women's balls are lighter, and less diameter, I believe. And even well-inflated, they still feel softer. They're much, much lighter...you can tell immediately when you bump them. They should be exactly the same size and same weight within normal manufacturing tolerances. Here's the NCAA women's rules: The Molten ball used for the NCAA women's tournaments is the IV58L-N Super Touch. I've seen versions of the Soft Touch, and it's considerably "squishier".  The typical ball used for NCAA men's is the Pro-Touch - usually a red/white/blue model. I recall a few years back I saw a photo of a red/white/blue Spalding TF4000 used in the NCAA men's VB Final Four.  I looked up Molten, and wasn't aware that they're a Japanese company. Their product offerings are in sporting goods and automotive parts. www.molten.co.jp |
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Post by BearClause on Feb 19, 2007 23:44:30 GMT -5
Oh - I looked up the current USA VB rules (which the NCAA men's rules are based upon with some modifications such as 30-point rally scoring).
3. BALLS
3.1 STANDARDS
The ball shall be spherical, made of a flexible leather or synthetic leather case with a bladder inside made of rubber or a similar material.
Its color may be a uniform light color, or a combination of colors.
Synthetic leather material and color combinations of balls used in International Official competitions should comply with FIVB standards.
Its circumference is 65-67 cm (25.6” to 26.4”) and its weight is 260-280 g (9 to 10 oz).
Its inside pressure shall be 0.30 to 0.325 kg/cm2 (4.26 to 4.61 psi) (294.3 to 318.82 mbar or hPa).
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Post by cougvb on Feb 20, 2007 10:56:30 GMT -5
So if I'm reading right the info BearClause provided, there is no difference, right? Men just usually use a different color?
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Post by CityTechLegend on Feb 20, 2007 11:24:28 GMT -5
Actually there is a total difference between the two balls, yet I don't think USAV has a required difference for the balls women and men use.
The women's ball has a cotton sub layerbetween the leather and the bladder, while the men's is a nylon layer. The theory is that nylon is more durable for the way a man hits, with that being said...
Anaconda Sports has a pretty good price for multiple ball orders. For any orders above 24 balls the price is as low as $34 a ball, for the "all white" Super Touch (cotton sub layer) women's ball. Still on the expensive side but doable with solid fundraising.
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Post by fingrbustr on Feb 20, 2007 12:50:15 GMT -5
Incidentally, I can recall many players complaining about using the Spalding ball for the NC2A championships (Hildebrand most recently comes to mind). I've played with it -- it is more slippery and spongy/dead feeling than a Molten. Makes no sense to me to use one ball during the season, then another for the Final Four. Ah, the wonders of marketing and contracts....
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