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Post by ballhalla on Feb 28, 2012 11:50:10 GMT -5
niualum2222,
Wow, if what you say is even half-true, it's so very damning to Coley Pawlikowski. Obviously, this is something you can't catch just watching from the stands. It seems odd since the team seemed so together last year, and the players on the court had such great support from those who didn't play. Maybe part of this is what you get, as far as divided loyalties, when an assitant coach is also many of the rostered players club coach.
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Post by oldman on Feb 28, 2012 12:21:44 GMT -5
Most conversations on this board would go alot smoother if we would stop talking as if we were "in the room" when clearly we were not. Its the nature of the beast.
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Post by ncaavb123 on Feb 28, 2012 12:27:39 GMT -5
I would love it if Wicinski considered University of Illinois. She would definitely have a good shot for playing time, especially with two senior outsides graduating and the two contenders for replacing them being freshmen and Jazmine Orozco transferring.... Just a thought...
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Post by oldman on Feb 28, 2012 14:45:49 GMT -5
I would love it if Wicinski considered University of Illinois. She would definitely have a good shot for playing time, especially with two senior outsides graduating and the two contenders for replacing them being freshmen and Jazmine Orozco transferring.... Just a thought... Kevin is that you??
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Post by vbmom10 on Feb 28, 2012 16:27:58 GMT -5
I'll be interested in seeing how she does in the "big time." Saw her in person against Iowa State and via video in the NCAA's. Just not that impressed either time. Don't get me wrong--she's good, but I didn't think she was outstanding against that level of competition. Maybe she was having off games....
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Post by fanofvolley on Feb 28, 2012 17:29:52 GMT -5
ISU dominated NIU last spring. NIU didn't look that impressive against Miami in the NCAA tournament and ISU went on to crush Miami. Wicinski gets her numbers because she gets double the sets of any other player on her team. That is effective in her current league but not so with "big time" schools like ISU and Miami. Her numbers will dwindle considerably.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Feb 28, 2012 18:11:57 GMT -5
We'll see if she gets selected for A2, and how she does if she gets there (since this year they're taking more girls than most).
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Post by baywatcher on Feb 28, 2012 19:01:42 GMT -5
A couple of entries are seriously upset with Wicinski, but are most readers? I can't see any difference between her and Cook, Ward, Tabi Love, all star players that left their programs high and dry, and I'm sure people can point to others. Don't remember a lot of saying they should have to sit out a year.
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Post by dizzydean on Feb 28, 2012 19:15:39 GMT -5
A couple of entries are seriously upset with Wicinski, but are most readers? I can't see any difference between her and Cook, Ward, Tabi Love, all star players that left their programs high and dry, and I'm sure people can point to others. Don't remember a lot of saying they should have to sit out a year. I think there's a big difference. Cook and those others were lateral moves. This is a player who suddenly thinks she's better than where she is.
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Post by spikerthemovie on Feb 28, 2012 19:15:48 GMT -5
I can see why NIU fans are upset but I don't expect there will be any general outrage unless Wicinski were to end up at Wisconsin. That could lead to Dieter/Bad Driver/Fonoimoana-like numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 19:16:27 GMT -5
Well, I suppose this depends on your definition of "crummy," but here are a few: Tyler Henderson, Tulsa Bre Payton, UNI Lucy Charuk, Houston Kim Maroon, Villanova Regina Thomas, Mississippi Anna Cmaylo, Santa Clara Danielle Hepburn, Clemson Hui Ping Huang, St. John's I'm pretty sure you could add any Hawaii All-American to this list, as well (unless the WAC is considered a strong conference to you). None of these would be crummy conferences in my opionion. Half are from BCS conferences for petes sake. Were these AA's or honorable mention AA's? Because that is a helluva difference as well. Trust me, there are some CRUMMY conferences out there, these arent any of them. Some of the conferences out east and in the south are crummy, the ones listed arent great. 1. No, none of the players listed were Honorable Mention selections. They were named to one of the three All-America teams. 2. Apparently you and I have different definitions of conference strength... You say that my examples aren't "great" but aren't "crummy" either. Semantics.
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Post by lonewolf on Feb 28, 2012 19:30:26 GMT -5
2. Apparently you and I have different definitions of conference strength... You say that my examples aren't "great" but aren't "crummy" either. Semantics. It does depend on your own personal definition of 'crummy', but several conferences you listed are ranked in the top 1/3 of all the conferences most years. Is above average=crummy?
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Post by baywatcher on Feb 28, 2012 20:23:16 GMT -5
A couple of entries are seriously upset with Wicinski, but are most readers? I can't see any difference between her and Cook, Ward, Tabi Love, all star players that left their programs high and dry, and I'm sure people can point to others. Don't remember a lot of saying they should have to sit out a year. I think there's a big difference. Cook and those others were lateral moves. This is a player who suddenly thinks she's better than where she is. Whoa. What's the difference between "moving up" and "lateral"? If your club team sucks, or you don't want to pay some goomba thousands of dollars in club, so you don't get offered, then you can't play with the "big" girls? How elitist, snobby is that? I'm supposed to feel sorry for the NIU coach, but not UCLA/Minnesota/Florida? Sorry, no difference. Take a look at your perspective here.
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Post by dizzydean on Feb 28, 2012 20:39:12 GMT -5
I think there's a big difference. Cook and those others were lateral moves. This is a player who suddenly thinks she's better than where she is. Whoa. What's the difference between "moving up" and "lateral"? If your club team sucks, or you don't want to pay some goomba thousands of dollars in club, so you don't get offered, then you can't play with the "big" girls? How elitist, snobby is that? I'm supposed to feel sorry for the NIU coach, but not UCLA/Minnesota/Florida? Sorry, no difference. Take a look at your perspective here. I didn't say anything about club, did I? Sure you feel bad for UCLA, etc. But NIU probably feels a different sense of loss than UCLA did.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 20:50:58 GMT -5
2. Apparently you and I have different definitions of conference strength... You say that my examples aren't "great" but aren't "crummy" either. Semantics. It does depend on your own personal definition of 'crummy', but several conferences you listed are ranked in the top 1/3 of all the conferences most years. Is above average=crummy? Umm... yeah. The bottom 90% of DI collegiate volleyball programs can't compete with the top 5%. So, while there are some programs that are above the #150 RPI mark, that doesn't mean that they are strong programs from strong conferences. A conference being ranked in the top 1/3 in DI means very, very little in terms of their relative strength in the sport of volleyball.
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