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Post by roy on Apr 8, 2003 15:29:28 GMT -5
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Post by Eater on Apr 8, 2003 19:09:56 GMT -5
Interesting.
Points can simply be computed from existing stats right? Blocks + kills + aces? It wasn't clear so I'm not sure if they're talking about removing kills entirely from the stats, or just adding points. If they're just adding points, that's fine, but removing kills would be dumb. Adding points shouldn't be difficult at all, since either the schools or the AVCA can simply compute it from the numbers they already collect.
They made some good points, but some silly ones too. They talk about how its more useful to know how many points a player gets than what the hitting percentage is. But I think knowing the % and the # of kills tells you alot more about how much they're contributing and WHERE they're contributing.
Counting recieve attempts and removing block assists both make sense, but I'm not sure how they're going to do that. What happens when a ball splits two recievers? They both get an attempt? Will the scorekeeper always be able to tell which player blocked the ball? What if it goes off both players?
And I think if the media can figure out scoring golf and tennis, they can figure out how to reports volleyball statistics, its really not that hard.
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Post by Eater on Apr 8, 2003 19:14:46 GMT -5
Now that I think about it some more, there is some value to the block assist stat. If say a middle blocker is particularly good or intimidating, hitters may work hard to avoid him and constantly hit into the outside blocker, even if the angle shot is much easier for them. While that MB may get no actual blocks, him being there is forcing the hitters to take a shot they'd rather not and get blocked trying to do so. If he wasn't as good, they'd just hit the angle shot over or around him and get a bunch of kills.
I don't know if the stat actually measures that though. If it does, we should keep it, if it doesn't then get rid of it. There should be some careful thought and analysis before we decide what to do with that one.
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Post by vballmom on Apr 9, 2003 7:39:54 GMT -5
Exactly right Eater. When a composite block is successful, it should count as a BA for all of the blockers. They all likely contributed to the hitter having nowhere to go.
Also, hitting percentage is important - if a player has 21 K's, but 15 errors, than has he really helped the team and is he getting too many sets? The only problem I have with hitting percentage is that sometimes a hitting error really isn't the hitters fault - when there is a bad pass or a broken play and the ball is just thrown up somewhere or the set is too tight - the hitter may not be able to do anything with it.
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Post by vbbudd on Apr 9, 2003 18:22:27 GMT -5
I think it helps to show the difference adding all the ways of scoring in one column.
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