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Post by Mocha on Jul 29, 2012 17:32:55 GMT -5
Tell us how you really feel Just stating the obvious. I did find it interesting though how complementary he was toward Davis in the women's match & we all know she's the weak spot on the team. You sure we are both watching the same broadcast? I recall Barnett at one point saying something along the lines of "another horrible pass from Davis on the free ball."
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Post by mervynpumpkinhead on Jul 29, 2012 18:56:24 GMT -5
God no. Hope needs to get a grip. As for Barnett, he could use some personality, but I'd rather have his expertise than, "Remember, three hits per side."
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Post by junior1 on Jul 29, 2012 19:38:04 GMT -5
Most entertaining have been Chris Marlow, the Geeter and going back now Kathy Gregory. Their, at times, outrageousness brought spirit to the broadcasts. Sunderland has always been solidly kind. Not sure about Wong, yet. It is nice that Barnett gives his opinions, not always positive, but even that is refreshing. Karch & McPeak yawnfests. Cox and a host of others not worth mentioning.
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Post by bill on Jul 29, 2012 19:45:43 GMT -5
There are a lot of people, I know, who know MVB and understand the subtleties of the game. Listening to Barnett's call of the opening match for the USA men was not tantamount to listening to someone who knows and understands the game. It was tantamount to listening to someone who either is angry that he didn't get the coaching job or that he just has issues with the current coaches....in any event his commentary was anything but unbiased and fair. As long as we are winning he is relatively decent, but the minute that something doesn't go the way he thinks it should go he turns into an a--hole!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 19:50:33 GMT -5
Sounds like a normal person.
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Post by ShaneM2005 on Jul 29, 2012 21:27:27 GMT -5
Just stating the obvious. I did find it interesting though how complementary he was toward Davis in the women's match & we all know she's the weak spot on the team. You sure we are both watching the same broadcast? I recall Barnett at one point saying something along the lines of "another horrible pass from Davis on the free ball." Yes, he may have, but I also remember him going on for about a minute about how she's outplayed many other US players that have come through the US gym and that's why she's so great, etc.
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Post by vbnerd on Jul 29, 2012 21:39:28 GMT -5
Barnett isn't impressed with Knipes. Seriously, who is?
Barnett said several times "In speaking with Reid this week..." and its not a secret that his views are informed and potentially biased by his teammate, friend and coworker, Reid Priddy. BTW, did you listen to Water Polo? Same thing. I think their goalie may be the 4th member of the holy trinity.
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Post by vb4me on Jul 30, 2012 1:22:27 GMT -5
Heather Cox is a former player, an intelligent woman, knowledgeable about volleyball and an experienced commentator. This is color commentary not investigative reporting.
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Post by pogoball on Jul 30, 2012 14:40:38 GMT -5
I agree that Barnett is knowledgeable and that he may be the best of a poor group, but there are times when he states something as fact and it is simply incorrect or, at best, opinion. It's definitely an annoyance. If something is an opinion, it sounds better to state it as such -- especially if your opinion disagrees with the head coach of the team ranked #1 in the world.
There were several times when Sunderland attempted to subtly give Barnett the opportunity to correct himself which flew right over his head. Could be worse, but he does come across as someone with a bit of an axe to grind.
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Post by Gorflorg Orshforg on Jul 30, 2012 15:30:07 GMT -5
I get the feeling Sunderland thinks Barnett is an idiot.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 30, 2012 16:38:55 GMT -5
Team USA needs someone to take a stand against the volleyball announcers the way Hope Solo's been doing. God no. Hope needs to get a grip. Hope is a great goalkeeper but she'll never make it as a politician.
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Post by pogoball on Jul 30, 2012 21:35:25 GMT -5
I get the feeling Sunderland thinks Barnett is an idiot. Maybe, or maybe more hard-headed. The kind of guy who has an educated opinion, but mistakes it as fact because he thinks it is the only correct opinion.
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Post by chisovnik on Jul 30, 2012 23:07:14 GMT -5
Barnett is just a douche. I don't care how much someone understands the game of volleyball, he comes off as spiteful and all-knowing. Spiteful is a really good description for him.
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Post by Gorflorg Orshforg on Jul 31, 2012 0:10:53 GMT -5
I get the feeling Sunderland thinks Barnett is an idiot. Maybe, or maybe more hard-headed. The kind of guy who has an educated opinion, but mistakes it as fact because he thinks it is the only correct opinion. Yeah, probably more accurate than what I said. Of course, and don't get me wrong, I love Sunderland as a broadcaster, he shouldn't judge on such things.
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Post by thuglife on Jul 31, 2012 7:01:31 GMT -5
Isn't the color analyst supposed to give their opinion. Obviously, the guy has played the game at the highest level, host a weekly media show concerning the sport, continually is around the players on both teams, and has a good working relationship with both coaching staffs. SOOOOO, not sure how this guy is not qualified or even better not doing what he is being paid to do. Let's not forget he is not being paid by USAV, but instead by the network that is hosting the games. Just like Gruden for MNF/NFL, Jeff Van Gundy or Jon Berry for NBA, or Tim McCarver for MLB. All of the above have a different working knowledge of their game (player or coach) and use that knowledge and connections to draw conclusions (aka opinions).
So I ask this, if Barnett is NOT the guy, who is? Because I'm pretty sure that there is no one that comes to mind that carries the same credentials that Barnett does other then Karch (at times can be very VANILLA and NEVER gives his opinion) and Hugh (who seems very busy with finishing one position and starting another). That's it...Sunderland is great but just is not around the game, same for Marlow, Cox is busy getting paid for working much bigger sports, McPeak couldn't tell you how she likes her eggs cooked (I'll have them however you'll cook them), Tennant is very young and inexperienced at the international level, Geeter is THE MAN, but like Cox is getting BIGGER paychecks ala NBA and Wong is an up and coming.
At the end of the day I appreciate someone giving their opinion especially when it has merit behind it. Is Barnett critical of coaches and players at times and the answer is YES, but what we haven't thought about is the fact that in most other sports that list is LONG and it is hard to keep track of the many opinions. In volleyball the list is very short and it becomes easy to remember. Besides, don't you think it is great that someone is critical of coaching and players especially when you are talking about programs that are at the top of their sport. It's not like the US has dominated the sport the past 20 years. Sure, Beijing was awesome, but let's continue to hold our sport that we love to a higher standard. Let's stop talking about the "GLORY DAYS" and realize that was almost 30 years ago. Let's start appreciating and promoting what we have now...and that begins with being somewhat critical.
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