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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2012 20:13:23 GMT -5
If you assembled a team of current NBA and the best pro Female VB players in the world, which team would win the volleyball match? I had this discussion with a soccer coach today, and he says the NBA athletes would win hands down. We had a delightful discussion as to why.
Criteria:
Men's height net.
One week of prep time.
fivb rules
My money goes on the women, even on a men's net they could easily beat a team of unskilled athletes regardless of size, speed. The women would hit around the men, the men would not be able to get many good looks off a pass. In fact I envisioned them being served off the court unable to put together something the resembles an attack. Technique is such a huge part of our game. In the prep week the women would be getting in tune with each other offensively and defensively. The men would be learning the basics of passing, setting, attacking, blocking, serving, and the rules.
Really kind of bored until preseason begins.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 2, 2012 20:19:44 GMT -5
The net height would be the killer. The women have spent years training everything they do to the women's net height.
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Post by Reach on Aug 2, 2012 20:22:32 GMT -5
The net height would be the killer. The women have spent years training everything they do to the women's net height. Mens height wouldn't effect the women. Maybe Larson and Tom, but everyone else is good to go. |
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Post by azvb on Aug 2, 2012 20:31:33 GMT -5
My nephew is in London and watched Misty and Kerry the other night. He said in warm ups, Chris Paul and ? Westbrook played a short game with them. He said they never returned a serve. Said it was hilarious.
I say the women win. They wouldl serve them off the court.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2012 20:45:31 GMT -5
Sorry about the choices, I should have been more specific, as in the men would not be able to score points to get a technical time out and the the men would only score points on unearned points, like service and hitting errors.
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Post by Gorflorg Orshforg on Aug 2, 2012 21:15:15 GMT -5
Thing is, you could field a lineup of former VB players from the NBA. Chase Budinger, Richard Jefferson, Vince Carter, I'm sure I could think of more. I'm sure Nene has played VB before, and any other Brazilians in the NBA, so that's Varejao, probably a few others I'm forgetting. There's five guys, and I'm sure I'm forgetting a few other guys who have played before. Shaq didn't look too bad on his reality show...If you eliminate guys who have prior experience it would be a slaughter, 25-2 if the men were lucky. If you let guys with experience play then yeah, they'd make it somewhat competitive, still too many holes in ball control though, no real setter, there would be a lot of doubles and missed timing plays. They'd run a pure high ball offense of course, no need for anything quick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2012 21:21:26 GMT -5
Hm... The obvious answer is we serve them off. But thinking about it more I changed my mind. The women's team would serve most of the match but I think the great athletes playing back row for the guys would get up a decent number of serves which would probably be chased and free balled over. NBA middle wouldn't close anything. So.. I think the question is how the women do against solo blocks and defense of the guys.
I think the guys would get up a fair number of serves and maybe some attacks, but I doubt they would ever be able to mount an attack. And they would be against double/triple blocks. I'd guess the guys score 5-8pts.
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Post by geddyleemarvin on Aug 2, 2012 21:37:06 GMT -5
The Lopez twins (both 7'0") played juniors for years. Tyler Hunnycutt (Sacto Kings) was a decorated high school player in SoCal. You could probably put together a group of NBA players who at the very least know what they're doing on a volleyball court.
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Post by volleyball23 on Aug 2, 2012 21:53:28 GMT -5
chase budinger and his brother would dominate misty and kerri
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Post by pogoball on Aug 3, 2012 8:42:19 GMT -5
Thing is, you could field a lineup of former VB players from the NBA. Chase Budinger, Richard Jefferson, Vince Carter, I'm sure I could think of more. I'm sure Nene has played VB before, and any other Brazilians in the NBA, so that's Varejao, probably a few others I'm forgetting. There's five guys, and I'm sure I'm forgetting a few other guys who have played before. Shaq didn't look too bad on his reality show...If you eliminate guys who have prior experience it would be a slaughter, 25-2 if the men were lucky. If you let guys with experience play then yeah, they'd make it somewhat competitive, still too many holes in ball control though, no real setter, there would be a lot of doubles and missed timing plays. They'd run a pure high ball offense of course, no need for anything quick. Yep, this sums it up. Maybe there's enough VB experience to make a competitive match. Chase might be the best player on the court. Yeah, NBA players without experience would be slaughtered. These types of exhibitions have been done in one form or another and it's never good for the inexperienced players. A number of years ago, a bunch of guys who were good athletes from the high school I coached at wanted to play the girls team. My assistant coach, who taught at the school, worked with the guys for a couple weeks. The girls team had to play without their starting setter who was unavailable. In sideout scoring, the final score was 15-1. The guys hit one goofy serve early that scored a point. I think they did get a handful of side-outs. The match was played in front of the whole school during an assembly. A bit embarrassing for the guys. The girls felt bad for them and didn't play hard, but the guys just couldn't control the ball well enough. The girls team was a good high school team, but not a state-ranked team or anything. |
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Post by Gorflorg Orshforg on Aug 3, 2012 11:38:14 GMT -5
Thing is, you could field a lineup of former VB players from the NBA. Chase Budinger, Richard Jefferson, Vince Carter, I'm sure I could think of more. I'm sure Nene has played VB before, and any other Brazilians in the NBA, so that's Varejao, probably a few others I'm forgetting. There's five guys, and I'm sure I'm forgetting a few other guys who have played before. Shaq didn't look too bad on his reality show...If you eliminate guys who have prior experience it would be a slaughter, 25-2 if the men were lucky. If you let guys with experience play then yeah, they'd make it somewhat competitive, still too many holes in ball control though, no real setter, there would be a lot of doubles and missed timing plays. They'd run a pure high ball offense of course, no need for anything quick. Yep, this sums it up. Maybe there's enough VB experience to make a competitive match. Chase might be the best player on the court. Yeah, NBA players without experience would be slaughtered. These types of exhibitions have been done in one form or another and it's never good for the inexperienced players. A number of years ago, a bunch of guys who were good athletes from the high school I coached at wanted to play the girls team. My assistant coach, who taught at the school, worked with the guys for a couple weeks. The girls team had to play without their starting setter who was unavailable. In sideout scoring, the final score was 15-1. The guys hit one goofy serve early that scored a point. I think they did get a handful of side-outs. The match was played in front of the whole school during an assembly. A bit embarrassing for the guys. The girls felt bad for them and didn't play hard, but the guys just couldn't control the ball well enough. The girls team was a good high school team, but not a state-ranked team or anything. Pretty much. There's a pretty hilarious/disgusting thread on the RealGM basketball forum about this topic. Two actually. One about the men's team, one about the women's. Google it if you dare. |
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Post by kro2488 on Aug 3, 2012 17:22:22 GMT -5
They are not conditioned for it nor do they have the experience, nor would they have any idea for strategy. It's a stupid question.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 3, 2012 22:49:27 GMT -5
This wouldnt be close at all. Chase and whoever the second best volleyball player is would destroy Misty and Kerri. (I know Luke Walton plays a little) Chase is reaching about 2 1/2 feet higher than the biggest blocker these girls ever play against.
Misty and Kerri would have an advantage in ball control but the NBA guys would have everything else over them. Remember how Kerri basically ended Holly's career at the highest level because Holly couldnt get the ball past her? Same thing here.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 3, 2012 22:53:08 GMT -5
Sorry if this was meant to be indoors in that case the NBA guys win even easier. All you need is two or three guys who know how to play, and there are that many, and the rest can just stand around and block when needed.
How would the women fare against that giant middle blocker from Russia? roughly the same as they would against someone like Tyson Chandler blocking. Mens offense is Chase + maybe the Lopez twins playing doubles then block the women off the court
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Post by OverAndUnder on Aug 3, 2012 23:24:29 GMT -5
Men have an OVERWHELMING athletic advantage. There is no comparison whatsoever between a top male player and a top female player. Gamova would get blocked off the court by Dante, Stanley, etc. Anything she did manage to get by would be dug easily.
Thing is, not all NBA players are created equal in terms of adaptable athleticism. Some people got to be very very very good at a particular sport because that was the only thing they were any good at. Others got to be very very very good at a particular sport because they have natural universal athleticism, and their genetic attributes (height, weight) made their universal athleticism very well-suited to that sport. You wouldn't want Adrian Peterson on your Olympic volleyball team, nor would you want Matt Anderson on your Super Bowl team. Depending on who your six man team is, the two or three guys who know what they're doing could tell the other three or four guys to just step off the court every time the ball is served, and the men would dominate.
We've all seen guys who played football/basketball all through grade school pick up volleyball through college friends or their church's YMCA team or just being in the city gym for open basketball play and hanging around one day when the volleyball league starts play -- and six months later they're one of the best volleyball players in the gym.
This thread's question is ONLY valid if you insist on picking men who have zero experience of any kind with volleyball, and don't have the kind of universally adaptable athletic talent.
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