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Post by azvb on Aug 6, 2012 10:49:46 GMT -5
Are these a requirement in international competition, Olympic requirement, NBC requirement? I hate them! Six timeouts per game is ridiculous.
Between all the NBC channels, we are seeing a lot of volleyball. No complaints from me, except for all the time outs. Do I want the finals tape delayed in their entirety on primetime or live in the middle of the day? Good question. I will need to sequester myself in a dark room if they are on primetime.
Go USA!
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 6, 2012 10:54:21 GMT -5
Are these a requirement in international competition, Olympic requirement, NBC requirement? I hate them! Six timeouts per game is ridiculous. Between all the NBC channels, we are seeing a lot of volleyball. No complaints from me, except for all the time outs. Do I want the finals tape delayed in their entirety on primetime or live in the middle of the day? Good question. I will need to sequester myself in a dark room if they are on primetime. Go USA! Yes, all FIVB matches have the TTOs. The real problem is that NBC goes overlong on commercial, shaving 2-3 point soff of our viewing each time. That's artificially shortening the # of points between timeouts. The board has been watching Brazilian, Polish, Turkish, Chinese (and so on) streams for the whole quad (as well as domestic TV for world league), and no one has complained--you're the second or third--about the TTOs until NBC started broadcasting. |
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Post by Edmond on Aug 6, 2012 10:55:42 GMT -5
A technical time-out in volleyball and beach volleyball is a time-out stipulated by the Fédération Internationale de Volleyball (FIVB) in each non-tie-breaking set. It is the formalized equivalent of a television timeout in other sports:
“ This special mandatory time out is, in addition to time outs, to allow the promotion of volleyball by analysis of the play and to allow additional commercial opportunities. Technical Time Outs are mandatory for FIVB World and Official competitions. ”
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Post by azvb on Aug 6, 2012 10:59:38 GMT -5
Thank you for the answers. I still hate them.
But I do love those Proctor and Gamble "mom" commercials. I blubber through every one.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 6, 2012 11:04:12 GMT -5
What's interesting is that in NCAA (and typical US) practice, if a TV timeout is scheduled it is usually conditional. If one of the coaches calls a charged timeout before the scheduled TV timeout, then the TV timeout is not called. But I've seen team timeouts called in the Olympics followed just a few points later by the technical timeout.
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Post by Edmond on Aug 6, 2012 11:06:25 GMT -5
You gotta love CCTV in China. No commercials until the end of a set.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Aug 6, 2012 21:28:25 GMT -5
I LOVE the FIVB TTOs. They break the match up into a bunch of mini-games and affect strategic decisions by cooches on using their own timeouts. They also give broadcasters a chance to get paid by their sponsors. The "NBC sucks" problem is implementation not concept -- NBC tape delays matches but then pretends they're showing you a live match, so when a TO is called instead of the producer just hitting <pause> and resuming the match at the end if the TO after commercials, the NBC producers tend to actually FAST FORWARD and bring us back into the match several points past the TO, as if we were "re-joining the match already in progress". Dumb
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 22:07:31 GMT -5
Contrast that to the gymnastics coverage, also taped. Almost 95% of the telecast is people waiting for scores. And we see EVERY SECOND OF IT.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 7, 2012 1:00:17 GMT -5
Contrast that to the gymnastics coverage, also taped. Almost 95% of the telecast is people waiting for scores. And we see EVERY SECOND OF IT. No, actually we didn't see every second of it. In fact, we didn't see most of the non-US competitors do their routines. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 1:12:37 GMT -5
There's that. True.
Something they could have shown instead of all that score-loitering.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 9:11:17 GMT -5
What's interesting is that in NCAA (and typical US) practice, if a TV timeout is scheduled it is usually conditional. If one of the coaches calls a charged timeout before the scheduled TV timeout, then the TV timeout is not called. But I've seen team timeouts called in the Olympics followed just a few points later by the technical timeout. idk, mike. i've seen many basketball games where, e.g., the coach will call a timeout at 12:30, and the tv timeout at 12:00 is still taken. in fact, the play by play guy will often comment as to why the coach burned a timeout when a tv timeout was coming anyway. and it does... |
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Post by azvb on Aug 7, 2012 11:16:26 GMT -5
What's interesting is that in NCAA (and typical US) practice, if a TV timeout is scheduled it is usually conditional. If one of the coaches calls a charged timeout before the scheduled TV timeout, then the TV timeout is not called. But I've seen team timeouts called in the Olympics followed just a few points later by the technical timeout. idk, mike. i've seen many basketball games where, e.g., the coach will call a timeout at 12:30, and the tv timeout at 12:00 is still taken. in fact, the play by play guy will often comment as to why the coach burned a timeout when a tv timeout was coming anyway. and it does... He's talking about volleyball, not basketball. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2012 7:56:18 GMT -5
idk, mike. i've seen many basketball games where, e.g., the coach will call a timeout at 12:30, and the tv timeout at 12:00 is still taken. in fact, the play by play guy will often comment as to why the coach burned a timeout when a tv timeout was coming anyway. and it does... He's talking about volleyball, not basketball. ok. i watch almost all my college vb live -- and matches that are not on tv. there's precious little vb on tv, and i've never really noticed that some timeouts are "tv". besides, the matches i have watched on tv tend to be dvr'd, so when they go to commercial i ffwd, not waiting to listen for who called the t/o. thx for the clarification... |
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