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Post by H2O on Jan 22, 2003 14:15:15 GMT -5
"And how do you know they were locals first of all? Another thing, what makes you think the Lewis players didn't start this too? Because some Lewis fan says so?
Perhaps the reason why no charges were filed, is because the Lewis players knew they were in the wrong? "
Well how do you know they were not. There is a Burger King or McDonalds on the corner of Lewers and K Ave. It can be frequented by both locals and non-locals. I find it amazing that no charges were filled by HPD regarless of fault. Maybe HPD thought it wasn't serious enough, but one guy went to the hospital. Seems pretty serious to me. I think HPD is local. Still question their and Hawii's hospitality.
That corner of Lewers Street is dangerous. I've had trouble there myself, with locals. The visitors are not the preying type.
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Post by Whoa on Jan 22, 2003 19:42:37 GMT -5
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Well how do you know they were not. There is a Burger King or McDonalds on the corner of Lewers and K Ave. It can be frequented by both locals and non-locals. I find it amazing that no charges were filled by HPD regarless of fault. Maybe HPD thought it wasn't serious enough, but one guy went to the hospital. Seems pretty serious to me. I think HPD is local. Still question their and Hawii's hospitality.
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It's not up to the police to file assault charges, but the parties involved, for this isn't like being pulled over for a traffic violation.
Those players didn't (And they do have that option even IF it was just a scratch on the arm) file any charges, so I guess it wasn't too serious to them. Blaming the locals and HPD for the Lewis' players not filing any assault charges isn't Hawaii's fault.
One more thing, it's clear to me now why you are siding with the notion that Hawaii's residents was at fault. It is based on what happened to YOU here.
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Post by vballmom on Jan 22, 2003 21:32:34 GMT -5
They probably didn't file charges, because they would have to come back to identify them, file depositions with the police, and for the trial. That is a lot of traveling, assuming that they could even find out who did it in the first place. This is probably not a high priority case for the local police.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Jan 22, 2003 22:26:05 GMT -5
"That corner of Lewers Street is dangerous. I've had trouble there myself, with locals. The visitors are not the preying type. Perhaps the Red Lion crowd ? I'm not going to make any excuses, there are young " punks " that sometimes look for trouble. It is unfortunate that some of the Lewis players had to spend part of their time in the hospital. I don't know what happened, but I believe the original comment of the thread, it's just an unfortunate situation. I, however, wouldn't bash HPD. I don't think ( guessing ) they did any less than the usually do in these types of situations. |
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Post by H2O on Jan 24, 2003 4:00:03 GMT -5
The only people who can answer these questions are the Lewis players. There are bad places to hang around in Hawaii, like Likelike, and the park just south of Hilo. Someone should have clued these guys in. But I guess Kalakuua Ave., which is full of tourists all the time should be added to the list. Maybe HPD could make an effort to keep it safe for the tourists. It's Hawaii's life blood. Enough said.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Jan 24, 2003 4:53:57 GMT -5
There may be some bad places to hang around in Hawaii, but I don't think the Likelike qualifies, It's a highway after all. Aside from some prostitutes on the Diamond head end of Kalakaua, it's not a bad area. Kuhio Ave is more "seedy " than Kalakaua is. Overall Waikiki is safe. FYI, HPD has a sub-station in Waikiki, However, these guys can't be everywhere. The assault on the Lewis players shouldn't have happened, nobody deserves that, but what more do you expect HPD to do bro ? chaperone the teams ?
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Post by Psychopotamus on Jan 24, 2003 7:42:44 GMT -5
Kalakaua usually is pretty safe, but like I said, the area around Lewers is mainly bars and clubs. Kuhio is quite creepy (though not really dangerous, as most of Waikiki) at any time of night. BTW, Isn't that Burger King gone? No mention of it being a mugging, so who knows, but even if they were local punks, I find it hard to believe anyone would just get beat up with no provocation. I don't think it was totally the Lewis players responsible, but except for extreme cases, it usually takes two to tango.
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Post by Whoa on Jan 24, 2003 16:24:59 GMT -5
H2O,
If people started to "hang around" Likelike highway, they should be run over by the passing cars.
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Post by Whoa on Jan 24, 2003 16:36:51 GMT -5
[quote author=H2O link=board=menvb&thread=1042438848&start=15#1 date=1043262915Well how do you know they were not. There is a Burger King or McDonalds on the corner of Lewers and K Ave. It can be frequented by both locals and non-locals. I find it amazing that no charges were filled by HPD regarless of fault. Maybe HPD thought it wasn't serious enough, but one guy went to the hospital. Seems pretty serious to me. I think HPD is local. Still question their and Hawii's hospitality.
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Why should HPD file the assault charges when both parties involved didn't want to? HPD was NOT the victims here.
Now, would the police in your area still would've filed assault charges in a case like this when both parties didn't want to file assault charges?
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