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Apr 24, 2016 13:33:27 GMT -5
Post by Cubicle No More ... on Apr 24, 2016 13:33:27 GMT -5
Wolfgang v. Wingoz
would probably be better than Batman v. Superman
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Apr 24, 2016 16:36:18 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 16:36:18 GMT -5
i saw everybody wants some!! big linklater fan. big fan of dazed and confused. the movie was getting great reviews. so i was in the right mood. however this is not a good movie. it did have a good ending. but these are not real people. they are gross caricatures poorly acted.
it was interesting seeing lea thompson playing a teenager again. genes are amazing things.
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Apr 25, 2016 11:05:32 GMT -5
Post by azvb on Apr 25, 2016 11:05:32 GMT -5
The Jungle Book was great. Not sure how they did it, but the animals talked. I swear, they did.
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Apr 25, 2016 11:14:01 GMT -5
Post by Wolfgang on Apr 25, 2016 11:14:01 GMT -5
The Jungle Book was great. Not sure how they did it, but the animals talked. I swear, they did. "You know what wolves do? They hunt. They kill. It's why I never bought into the Jungle Book. Boy is raised by wolves and becomes friends with a bear and panther? I don't think so." -- Lorne Malvo (played by Billy Bob Thornton), Fargo (season 1).
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Apr 25, 2016 12:18:03 GMT -5
Post by mikegarrison on Apr 25, 2016 12:18:03 GMT -5
The Jungle Book was great. Not sure how they did it, but the animals talked. I swear, they did. "You know what wolves do? They hunt. They kill. It's why I never bought into the Jungle Book. Boy is raised by wolves and becomes friends with a bear and panther? I don't think so." -- Lorne Malvo (played by Billy Bob Thornton), Fargo (season 1). You know what authors do? They make up stories. They lie. It's why Kipling wrote The Jungle Book. Boy is raised by wolves and becomes friends with a bear and panther? You're not supposed to think it's literally real.
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Apr 25, 2016 12:31:47 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 12:31:47 GMT -5
Authors shouldn't lie. They make up stories, but they should still speak truth.
The problem I have with The Jungle Book movie (I can't speak for the book) isn't with the things that should not be taken literally. It's with the moral. The lessons we are supposed to learn from the animals are lessons nowhere to be found in nature.
But it's Disney. Walt did it forever and they are still doing it. What can you do? Zootopia promotes the same lie.
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Apr 25, 2016 12:44:48 GMT -5
Post by mikegarrison on Apr 25, 2016 12:44:48 GMT -5
I advise reading the book. It's good. There are only three stories about Mowgli, and four that are not.
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Apr 25, 2016 13:05:27 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 13:05:27 GMT -5
Are we really discussing the truth in reality of Disney movies? The company that tells stories of a half-woman-half-fish, a flying carpet, and a boy whose knows grows longer each time he tells a lie?
Non-fiction authors should not lie. In Disney's case, it is an entertainment company primarily geared towards children. Children who have vivid imaginations and like to explore and discover.
Also, as an adult I understand much more of the movie.
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Apr 25, 2016 13:18:14 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 13:18:14 GMT -5
You don't understand my point, but what else is new.
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Apr 25, 2016 13:28:22 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 13:28:22 GMT -5
You don't understand my point, but what else is new. What are the moral lessons supposed to be learned from The Jungle Book?
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Apr 25, 2016 13:37:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 13:37:49 GMT -5
Oh, there were plenty, but I'll give you one -- the whole business about the wolf pack -- “The strength of the wolf is the strength of the pack.” Maybe that is even true, but they then extrapolate it to the entire animal kingdom -- and their fight against Shere Khan.
Is this how nature works? Do animals survive and thrive when species band together against a common enemy?
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Apr 25, 2016 13:51:49 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 13:51:49 GMT -5
I don't think anyone should take moral lessons from Disney movies. I think those movies exist for entertainment purposes only.
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Apr 25, 2016 14:17:54 GMT -5
Post by Cubicle No More ... on Apr 25, 2016 14:17:54 GMT -5
i'm not sure 'the jungle book' was so much about the animal kingdom, than it was as an allegory (and advocacy) for British colonialism and imperialism in India.
and the movies (both cartoon and the new live-action film) are less about kipling's original intent, and more about the Disney tradition of stripping down and oversimplifying these old tales.
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Apr 25, 2016 15:07:56 GMT -5
Post by mikegarrison on Apr 25, 2016 15:07:56 GMT -5
i'm not sure 'the jungle book' was so much about the animal kingdom, than it was as an allegory (and advocacy) for British colonialism and imperialism in India. I think that's reading a bit much into it, perhaps. There is evidence Kipling wrote it to please his (dying of illness) young daughter. I think it was more about entertainment than about British colonialism.
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Apr 25, 2016 15:14:24 GMT -5
Post by Cubicle No More ... on Apr 25, 2016 15:14:24 GMT -5
i'm not sure 'the jungle book' was so much about the animal kingdom, than it was as an allegory (and advocacy) for British colonialism and imperialism in India. I think that's reading a bit much into it, perhaps. There is evidence Kipling wrote it to please his (dying of illness) young daughter. I think it was more about entertainment than about British colonialism. sure. i would say the allegory part is certainly present in the work. the (advocacy) part was my take on it. but it all goes along with part of the discussion here. the works of kipling (and all authors, really) have many themes and motivations. the disney-fication of their works tends to discount that.
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