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Jul 28, 2016 15:28:05 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 15:28:05 GMT -5
It takes real talent to ad lib. They were two of the best.
But it's not my cup-of-comedy-tea. Yeah, it's probably Wilson-related. Williams was also a "genius." Just not very funny, imo.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jul 28, 2016 15:32:40 GMT -5
Your cup of tea is very small.
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Jul 28, 2016 15:37:58 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 15:37:58 GMT -5
Sort of what taste is all about, no? Discernment?
Not claiming my tastes are better than anyone else's, but I am claiming that if everything is good, nothing is good.
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Jul 28, 2016 15:47:15 GMT -5
Post by azvb on Jul 28, 2016 15:47:15 GMT -5
Loved Jonathan Winters when he'd appear on the Tonight Show with Johnny.
You know who cracks me up? Bob Newhart.
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Jul 28, 2016 15:51:44 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 15:51:44 GMT -5
Bob's a very funny man. Comedians used to put out records -- Cosby, the Smothers Brothers, Carlin, etc. Those were the days.
Stiller and Meara Bob Einstein (is that the right name?) -- Officer Judy Albert Brooks Burns and Schreiber David Steinberg
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Jul 28, 2016 16:07:04 GMT -5
Post by Wolfgang on Jul 28, 2016 16:07:04 GMT -5
I was never into comedy records. In high school, a friend put on a record for me. It was some bit about a reporter interviewing an alien. I can't remember the details. I feigned laughter because I didn't want to offend him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 16:10:45 GMT -5
It's because your cup is tiny.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:19:30 GMT -5
Post by Wolfgang on Jul 28, 2016 16:19:30 GMT -5
Comedy routines have a different effect than music.
If I already know the routine, I can't get excited a second time. Music, oddly enough, doesn't have the same effect. You can listen to the same music over and over again, even though you know every note and word. (Although, apparently, it's not the case with the Beach Boys and @ruffda.) It's much more difficult to enjoy a comedy routine over and over again. For example, I really enjoyed the Who's on First bit by Abbott and Costello, but with each repeated viewing (or hearing), I enjoy it less. The joke is already "out of the bag." Not so with music. It's an art form that seems to demand repeat listenings -- there's no "out of the bag" feeling.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:20:53 GMT -5
Post by mikegarrison on Jul 28, 2016 16:20:53 GMT -5
Comedy routines have a different effect than music. If I already know the routine, I can't get excited a second time. Music, oddly enough, doesn't have the same effect. You can listen to the same music over and over again, even though you know every note and word. It's much more difficult to enjoy a comedy routine over and over again. For example, I really enjoyed the Who's on First bit by Abbott and Costello, but with each repeated viewing (or hearing), I enjoy it less. The joke is already "out of the bag." Not so with music. It's an art form that seems to demand repeat listenings -- there's no "out of the bag" feeling. Take my wife -- please.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:23:32 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 16:23:32 GMT -5
This is debatable, but I won't do that. I'll just point out that you didn't say anything about listening to them over and over again. You said you didn't like them.
But you still need a bigger cup.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:25:27 GMT -5
Post by Wolfgang on Jul 28, 2016 16:25:27 GMT -5
This is debatable, but I won't do that. I'll just point out that you didn't say anything about listening to them over and over again. You said you didn't like them. But you still need a bigger cup. That's the whole point of buying a record -- so you can listen to it over and over again. Otherwise, if it's just a one time thing, I'll just go over to a buddy's house and listen to his record there. Edit: I don't know what I'm talking about. I haven't listened to a comedy record over and over again, so I have no basis for my statement. As for the Who's on First bit, I only saw it on TV only a handful of times, although I've seen it recreated by others.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:30:22 GMT -5
Post by Wolfgang on Jul 28, 2016 16:30:22 GMT -5
This is debatable, but I won't do that. I'll just point out that you didn't say anything about listening to them over and over again. You said you didn't like them. But you still need a bigger cup. Actually, I don't know if I like them or not, come to think of it. I simply don't listen to comedy records. It was that one time with my friend and perhaps one other time that I can't remember. The Brian Wilson thread got my panties all in a bunch.
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Jul 28, 2016 17:56:44 GMT -5
Post by mikegarrison on Jul 28, 2016 17:56:44 GMT -5
Edit: I don't know what I'm talking about. I haven't listened to a comedy record over and over again, so I have no basis for my statement. As for the Who's on First bit, I only saw it on TV only a handful of times, although I've seen it recreated by others. My point in referencing Henny Youngman was that sometimes the repetition of the joke is part of the joke. Like going to a show to see a musician play a song you have heard 100 times before, sometimes you are expecting a comic to reference his own classics. They become in-jokes -- the audience knows the punchline is coming and anticipates it. I saw Steven Wright live in college, and I had heard many of the jokes before. But his thing was to speak them totally deadpan, and in some ways that made it funnier that you knew the joke. (Ex. "Last night someone broke into my apartment and replaced everything with exact duplicates. When I mentioned it to my roommate, he said, 'Do I know you?'") Say goodnight, Gracie. "Goodnight Gracie."
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Jul 28, 2016 18:13:29 GMT -5
Post by Wolfgang on Jul 28, 2016 18:13:29 GMT -5
Edit: I don't know what I'm talking about. I haven't listened to a comedy record over and over again, so I have no basis for my statement. As for the Who's on First bit, I only saw it on TV only a handful of times, although I've seen it recreated by others. My point in referencing Henny Youngman was that sometimes the repetition of the joke is part of the joke. Like going to a show to see a musician play a song you have heard 100 times before, sometimes you are expecting a comic to reference his own classics. They become in-jokes -- the audience knows the punchline is coming and anticipates it. I saw Steven Wright live in college, and I had heard many of the jokes before. But his thing was to speak them totally deadpan, and in some ways that made it funnier that you knew the joke. (Ex. "Last night someone broke into my apartment and replaced everything with exact duplicates. When I mentioned it to my roommate, he said, 'Do I know you?'") Say goodnight, Gracie. "Goodnight Gracie." I understand what you're saying. I think the repetitive power of comedy is only effective for certain routines, certain comedians and, just like music, certain personal tastes. The "Goodnight Gracie" and "Take my wife please" are one-liners and they don't have the same comedic effect on me. I heard the George Burns bit in the 1970s, as well as the Henny Youngman bit and also Milton Berle's "Ladies and Germs" but never found them to be funny. (Of course, I used to think Jerry Lewis was hilarious and now I don't.) I used to think Seinfeld was funny and then when I watch reruns, all their bits seem old and too familiar. I don't even laugh anymore. Steven Wright is funny, but I haven't experienced his routines over and over again so I don't know if his humor will work on me with repetition. I've seen Airplane! about 6-7 times and certain scenes are still hilarious even though I know what's coming, but over the years, I'm laughing less and less at the other scenes.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 28, 2016 18:25:22 GMT -5
My point in referencing Henny Youngman was that sometimes the repetition of the joke is part of the joke. Like going to a show to see a musician play a song you have heard 100 times before, sometimes you are expecting a comic to reference his own classics. They become in-jokes -- the audience knows the punchline is coming and anticipates it. I saw Steven Wright live in college, and I had heard many of the jokes before. But his thing was to speak them totally deadpan, and in some ways that made it funnier that you knew the joke. (Ex. "Last night someone broke into my apartment and replaced everything with exact duplicates. When I mentioned it to my roommate, he said, 'Do I know you?'") Say goodnight, Gracie. "Goodnight Gracie." I understand what you're saying. I think the repetitive power of comedy is only effective for certain routines, certain comedians and, just like music, certain personal tastes. The "Goodnight Gracie" and "Take my wife please" are one-liners and they don't have the same comedic effect on me. I heard the George Burns bit in the 1970s, as well as the Henny Youngman bit and also Milton Berle's "Ladies and Germs" but never found them to be funny. (Of course, I used to think Jerry Lewis was hilarious and now I don't.) I used to think Seinfeld was funny and then when I watch reruns, all their bits seem old and too familiar. I don't even laugh anymore. Steven Wright is funny, but I haven't experienced his routines over and over again so I don't know if his humor will work on me with repetition. I've seen Airplane! about 6-7 times and certain scenes are still hilarious even though I know what's coming, but over the years, I'm laughing less and less at the other scenes. "Stewardess, I speak jive."
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