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Post by elevationvb on Oct 28, 2013 22:17:05 GMT -5
Great video of some of my favorite Longhorns: Moriarity, Paolini, Kisner, and Engle! Texas Volleyball AlumniAnd congrats to Chloe for earning her first Big12 Rookie of the Week Honors! My favorite 2 volleyball Longhorns - Michelle Moriarty and Lauren Paolini! Loved seeing the former Horns at the match. Sorry they couldn't get an interview with Faucette.
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Post by austen on Oct 28, 2013 23:06:16 GMT -5
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Post by yellovfan on Oct 29, 2013 10:46:36 GMT -5
Does that ring say "Collins" on the side? Hookem
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Post by southie on Oct 29, 2013 13:33:37 GMT -5
I pray this does not catch on. I will be booing if it does. The "Point Texas" is enough. This type of dumb chant should be reserved for schools that have zero volleyball tradition. We absolutely don't need it. I noticed that the West Virginia fans did this. Think it was "W" . . . "V" . . . "U", but not positive.
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Post by yellovfan on Oct 29, 2013 14:50:54 GMT -5
Was the chant Jerritt's idea too?
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Post by Serendipity on Oct 29, 2013 16:22:06 GMT -5
Hey yellovfan - clearly you have problems with both passive-aggressiveness and Chloe Collins - what is your problem with her? She is a talented young athlete on the top team in the country - care to explain? Or would you like to continue to cut down a teammate on a team that you clearly know a lot about. Let's all support each other AND the athletes, m'kay?
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Post by yellovfan on Oct 29, 2013 17:12:25 GMT -5
Hey yellovfan - clearly you have problems with both passive-aggressiveness and Chloe Collins - what is your problem with her? She is a talented young athlete on the top team in the country - care to explain? Or would you like to continue to cut down a teammate on a team that you clearly know a lot about. Let's all support each other AND the athletes, m'kay? Thanks, mom Actually, criticism has been, appropriately, on Coach Elliott, not so much on Collins. Coaches have to answer questions from Journalists, boosters, and fans. It comes with the job, especially when you lead a high-profile program. You are right, student/athletes shouldn't be singled out for criticism.
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Post by tempesthorn on Oct 29, 2013 21:38:31 GMT -5
Hey yellovfan - clearly you have problems with both passive-aggressiveness and Chloe Collins - what is your problem with her? She is a talented young athlete on the top team in the country - care to explain? Or would you like to continue to cut down a teammate on a team that you clearly know a lot about. Let's all support each other AND the athletes, m'kay? Thanks, mom Actually, criticism has been, appropriately, on Coach Elliott, not so much on Collins. Coaches have to answer questions from Journalists, boosters, and fans. It comes with the job, especially when you lead a high-profile program. You are right, student/athletes shouldn't be singled out for criticism. Your criticisms have been mostly on Collins. Equally as pathetic as repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old on a webboard is when called out on it you become a coward and claim you've been criticizing the coaches. While you have done that too, own your repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old girl who happens to be the Big 12 Rookie of the Week. I'm sure it makes you feel like a volleyball aficionado. You are hardly expert in any of your opinions laid out as facts. Claiming a setter deserves her starting position because of her final four record while at the same time trashing the Coach that has led her teams to those same final fours plus ones before she ever got to Texas is beyond moronic.
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Post by jayvolleypro on Oct 29, 2013 22:16:04 GMT -5
Thanks, mom Actually, criticism has been, appropriately, on Coach Elliott, not so much on Collins. Coaches have to answer questions from Journalists, boosters, and fans. It comes with the job, especially when you lead a high-profile program. You are right, student/athletes shouldn't be singled out for criticism. Your criticisms have been mostly on Collins. Equally as pathetic as repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old on a webboard is when called out on it you become a coward and claim you've been criticizing the coaches. While you have done that too, own your repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old girl who happens to be the Big 12 Rookie of the Week. I'm sure it makes you feel like a volleyball aficionado. You are hardly expert in any of your opinions laid out as facts. Claiming a setter deserves her starting position because of her final four record while at the same time trashing the Coach that has led her teams to those same final fours plus ones before she ever got to Texas is beyond moronic.
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Post by yellovfan on Oct 30, 2013 7:49:45 GMT -5
Thanks, mom Actually, criticism has been, appropriately, on Coach Elliott, not so much on Collins. Coaches have to answer questions from Journalists, boosters, and fans. It comes with the job, especially when you lead a high-profile program. You are right, student/athletes shouldn't be singled out for criticism. Your criticisms have been mostly on Collins. Equally as pathetic as repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old on a webboard is when called out on it you become a coward and claim you've been criticizing the coaches. While you have done that too, own your repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old girl who happens to be the Big 12 Rookie of the Week. I'm sure it makes you feel like a volleyball aficionado. You are hardly expert in any of your opinions laid out as facts. Claiming a setter deserves her starting position because of her final four record while at the same time trashing the Coach that has led her teams to those same final fours plus ones before she ever got to Texas is beyond moronic. I know what I think, but thanks for telling me anyway. Yes, the responsibility for this season for Texas is on JE. You can't name any specific "trashing" criticism of Collins because there aren't any. You are just overreacting. Saying that a player has never played in an NCAA Tournament match is not an opinion. Saying that a setter has not beaten a ranked opponent as a starting 5-1 setter is not an opinion. Saying that less than 5% of National Championship teams have won with a true Freshman setter is not an opinion. Saying that a blocker is 5"7" is also not an opinion. Calling me a moron is, I guess, some kind of opinion. Thinking that Big 12 Rookie of the Week is a big deal is an opinion. My opinion is that the Longhorn's biggest issues this year are Elliott's mismanagement, Lack of team chemistry, and lack of ball control. All of those are JE's responsibility. Hookem
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 30, 2013 8:00:57 GMT -5
Your criticisms have been mostly on Collins. Equally as pathetic as repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old on a webboard is when called out on it you become a coward and claim you've been criticizing the coaches. While you have done that too, own your repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old girl who happens to be the Big 12 Rookie of the Week. I'm sure it makes you feel like a volleyball aficionado. You are hardly expert in any of your opinions laid out as facts. Claiming a setter deserves her starting position because of her final four record while at the same time trashing the Coach that has led her teams to those same final fours plus ones before she ever got to Texas is beyond moronic. This board is for discussion of the good and bad regarding volleyball. It is part opinion, part fact. Those on this board are more than free to express opinions about players. That's why we're here. Criticism and praise are part of an athlete's life. From an early age they hear both. They're used to it. You should get used to it, too. I happen to share the opinion that Chloe isn't the setter TX needs once the dominant OHs are gone. She's way undersized, location is just okay and she I've seen some fundamental mistakes (although those are likely correctable...i.e. taking the ball from the side of her head on good passes causing location issues). However, while TX has the most dominant OHs in the country, she'll do just fine.
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Post by southie on Oct 30, 2013 10:17:32 GMT -5
I can only assume that Jerritt and Salima are having Collins set because she is playing better in practice (and carrying that into matches). I guess we'll see tonight if Collins gets the nod again.
Despte Collins' size and true freshman status, the staff is starting and playing her more than the taller, experienced, senior setter. Based on resumes, this shouldn't be a close competition; but, somehow it is. It's all about what-have-you-done-for-me-lately.
Several posters on here want the staff to decide on a starting setter and go with her for the rest of the season. That may have already happened.
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Post by texasnewbie on Oct 30, 2013 10:48:41 GMT -5
Chloe deserves the nod at the starting setter position. She has proven herself as a quality setter. Her defense is wonderful in the back row and she is extremely quick to get to 2 or 3 passes, and for once doesn't always go to the OH's when out of system like that.
Texas played a great match against K-State. Great things happened and Chloe set that team to over a 300 clip. Hannah is a physical force at the net in blocking but she is slower in transition and ALWAYS uses the OH's to be rescued from a bad pass. Hannah came in as a very talented setter and earned her spot over Kocher, yet Kocher set Texas to a final four her freshman year, and ran a gorgeous 6:2 with Ashley in 09. Don't get me wrong, Hannah is a nice girl but Chloe is better. As far as the liability of her in the front row, not too worried about it, even when we play bigger teams like PSU or Washington etc etc. Chloe sets a better tempo and her location is more efficient than Hannah's. It's nice to have Hannah in reserve just in case we need her because she absolutely can spark up a set/match. Clearly however, Chloe will be our starter and it's well deserved. Texas improves every match and by tourney time they will be in top form ready for any team. With Collins at the wheel, she is confident, she is poised and she is ready to lead this team to yet another final four. Hannah will be the reserve and for good reason. I like her as a person but from a coaches point of view, she is not better than Collins. Hannah comes with experience, but Chloe does as well, and as a freshman she out sets Hannah. Sorry, not meaning to step on anyones toes but JE knows Chloe will start and Hannah will be reserved. Also with JE , you just never know, we may see Hannah out there tonight.
IMO---I believe Hannah has not improved over her years at Texas, she was a great recruit for Texas but as much as I loved her physicality when she was a freshman, she seems to have become worse than better. Guys, she is senior setter, look at all the other senior setters in the powerhouse programs. Hannah is always just 2 steps behind.
I have full confidence that Chloe will set this team to another final four. Even after looking great on the road at K-State, Texas will continue to improve and make a huge run for the title again and Chloe will have the reigns.
This is just my opinion. I like both girls, they are great friends but as far as the sport goes, Chloe deserves the nod. She's great! Also something to be noted, Hannah is actually the first setter in a very long time to come to TExas and not earn any award whether it be B12 honors or Nationally. Anways, just my opinion once again. Not trying to be rude or mean, just my opinion that Collins has proven herself to start. If we are struggling then we have another set of hands to count on.
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Post by tempesthorn on Oct 30, 2013 11:10:47 GMT -5
Your criticisms have been mostly on Collins. Equally as pathetic as repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old on a webboard is when called out on it you become a coward and claim you've been criticizing the coaches. While you have done that too, own your repeated anonymous trashing of an 18 year old girl who happens to be the Big 12 Rookie of the Week. I'm sure it makes you feel like a volleyball aficionado. You are hardly expert in any of your opinions laid out as facts. Claiming a setter deserves her starting position because of her final four record while at the same time trashing the Coach that has led her teams to those same final fours plus ones before she ever got to Texas is beyond moronic. I know what I think, but thanks for telling me anyway. Yes, the responsibility for this season for Texas is on JE. You can't name any specific "trashing" criticism of Collins because there aren't any. You are just overreacting. Saying that a player has never played in an NCAA Tournament match is not an opinion. Saying that a setter has not beaten a ranked opponent as a starting 5-1 setter is not an opinion. Saying that less than 5% of National Championship teams have won with a true Freshman setter is not an opinion. Saying that a blocker is 5"7" is also not an opinion. Calling me a moron is, I guess, some kind of opinion. Thinking that Big 12 Rookie of the Week is a big deal is an opinion. My opinion is that the Longhorn's biggest issues this year are Elliott's mismanagement, Lack of team chemistry, and lack of ball control. All of those are JE's responsibility. Hookem Specific trashing of Collins from you- Does that ring say "Collins" on the side? - October 29 Has Collins won a 5th set running a 5-1 ? - October 29 - trash talk because the only time she was running a 5-1 when a 5th set was required was San Diego and her coaches were telling her to run the higher tempo, lower sets. I believe you yourself have posted "the setter is running the offense the coach requests" I don't think she got that dig. - October 28 It has a great analysis of Collins' practice stats. - October 25 another swipe at Collins as the article mentions nothing about her other than she had a one-on-one with Salima. The only conclusion to be drawn is that the overwhelming majority of UT VT posters would rather see Collins start than Texas win another NC. - October 24 You know I wondered if my comments about you were unfair, so I looked through your previous posts. I stand 100% behind my comments after reading negative post after negative post from you. See the sample above about Collins alone. The sad part is it doesn't end there. You trash Dalton "Dalton was a mediocre back row passer" and "IF Dalton were healthy, she would not be as good as Chiaka on the RS and she would be a mediocre back row passer." You trash Eckerman "Eckerman's stats are almost as good now as her reputation" and your comment after her LHN feature about needing to be an "inspiration ON the court". Then you also trash Ashley Engle "Engle was very talented but did not do so well in Final Fours." As your fellow trash talker dawagner points out, this board is for opinion. But opinions are like @$$%*!*s everyone has one and some are quite a bit stinkier than others. Your negative opinion after negative opinion is sad. And rationalizing this behavior, DAWAGNER, by saying they're use to it??? Being constructively criticized by coaches during your playing career and being anonymously trashed by volleyball morons on volleytalk is NOT the same thing. I would think a coach (as you claim to be) would know that.
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 30, 2013 12:44:04 GMT -5
Chloe deserves the nod at the starting setter position. She has proven herself as a quality setter. Her defense is wonderful in the back row and she is extremely quick to get to 2 or 3 passes, and for once doesn't always go to the OH's when out of system like that. Texas played a great match against K-State. Great things happened and Chloe set that team to over a 300 clip. Hannah is a physical force at the net in blocking but she is slower in transition and ALWAYS uses the OH's to be rescued from a bad pass. Hannah came in as a very talented setter and earned her spot over Kocher, yet Kocher set Texas to a final four her freshman year, and ran a gorgeous 6:2 with Ashley in 09. Don't get me wrong, Hannah is a nice girl but Chloe is better. As far as the liability of her in the front row, not too worried about it, even when we play bigger teams like PSU or Washington etc etc. Chloe sets a better tempo and her location is more efficient than Hannah's. It's nice to have Hannah in reserve just in case we need her because she absolutely can spark up a set/match. Clearly however, Chloe will be our starter and it's well deserved. Texas improves every match and by tourney time they will be in top form ready for any team. With Collins at the wheel, she is confident, she is poised and she is ready to lead this team to yet another final four. Hannah will be the reserve and for good reason. I like her as a person but from a coaches point of view, she is not better than Collins. Hannah comes with experience, but Chloe does as well, and as a freshman she out sets Hannah. Sorry, not meaning to step on anyones toes but JE knows Chloe will start and Hannah will be reserved. Also with JE , you just never know, we may see Hannah out there tonight. IMO---I believe Hannah has not improved over her years at Texas, she was a great recruit for Texas but as much as I loved her physicality when she was a freshman, she seems to have become worse than better. Guys, she is senior setter, look at all the other senior setters in the powerhouse programs. Hannah is always just 2 steps behind. I have full confidence that Chloe will set this team to another final four. Even after looking great on the road at K-State, Texas will continue to improve and make a huge run for the title again and Chloe will have the reigns. This is just my opinion. I like both girls, they are great friends but as far as the sport goes, Chloe deserves the nod. She's great! Also something to be noted, Hannah is actually the first setter in a very long time to come to TExas and not earn any award whether it be B12 honors or Nationally. Anways, just my opinion once again. Not trying to be rude or mean, just my opinion that Collins has proven herself to start. If we are struggling then we have another set of hands to count on. Seems like you guys have your setter, which is good. I do think Chloe has more potential, but that comes with limitations with height. There are creative ways around that in certain rotations. With the supporting team Texas has, you should be a final four team with EITHER setter and can go further, if the passing improves, with Chloe.
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