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Post by bill on Aug 13, 2013 22:10:00 GMT -5
Yeah, it won't make any difference at Arizona....Rubio couldn't work with the talent he has if his life depended upon it....just look at some of the talent that has come through his program and then look at what he has to show for it....not much!
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 13, 2013 22:16:10 GMT -5
Yeah, it won't make any difference at Arizona....Rubio couldn't work with the talent he has if his life depended upon it....just look at some of the talent that has come through his program and then look at what he has to show for it....not much! Rubio has a great smile but that's about it.
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Aug 13, 2013 22:59:45 GMT -5
Shoji dancin at this weeding reception. Wow, life really is different in Hawaii. I spent an hour or so weeding today, and I didn't get a reception. usually, i just get drunk at weddings. wait---what are we talking about??
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 13, 2013 23:53:00 GMT -5
Wow, life really is different in Hawaii. I spent an hour or so weeding today, and I didn't get a reception. usually, i just get drunk at weddings. By coincidence, I get drunk before weeding. Makes it more tolerable.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Aug 14, 2013 1:52:40 GMT -5
usually, i just get drunk at weddings. By coincidence, I get drunk before weeding. Makes it more tolerable. I once attended a weeding reception. It was not at all what I was expecting. No open bar should have been my first clue. And I'm in Hawai'i as we speak. I can verify that life is different in Hawai'i.
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Post by cupcake on Aug 14, 2013 12:00:15 GMT -5
We do know Dave went to great deal of effort to recruit Crosson and she always said Hawaii was the place she wanted to be at. Her parents were 1000% behind the decision to go there.
Once she was set free and able to determine how she ran her life, became responsible for her own decisions and how she mentally prepared to enter college and play D! volleyball, Crosson began to spin out of control. She became her own worst enemy.
The Hawaii volleyball program and school did everything possible to help Crosson. However Crosson decided not to help herself and continued to spiral out of control. This was her decision and hers alone. She was given plenty of chances but passed and became a detriment to the team. Why all this happened is another thread page.
It is one thing to grant a player a waiver when there is a mutual respect and understanding. However in this case it seems rather one sided that Crosson simply thumb her nose at the coach, players and school. There comes a time in life when you need to be held accountable for your decisions and how you act. She is simply feeling the consequences of how she treated the school, coach and her teammates.
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Post by bigfan on Aug 14, 2013 12:12:23 GMT -5
Wow, life really is different in Hawaii. I spent an hour or so weeding today, and I didn't get a reception. Weeding is part of a wedding in Hawaii. You have to weed the yard before the wedding can take place in the backyard. lol
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Aug 14, 2013 12:50:19 GMT -5
We do know Dave went to great deal of effort to recruit Crosson and she always said Hawaii was the place she wanted to be at. Her parents were 1000% behind the decision to go there. Once she was set free and able to determine how she ran her life, became responsible for her own decisions and how she mentally prepared to enter college and play D! volleyball, Crosson began to spin out of control. She became her own worst enemy. The Hawaii volleyball program and school did everything possible to help Crosson. However Crosson decided not to help herself and continued to spiral out of control. This was her decision and hers alone. She was given plenty of chances but passed and became a detriment to the team. Why all this happened is another thread page. It is one thing to grant a player a waiver when there is a mutual respect and understanding. However in this case it seems rather one sided that Crosson simply thumb her nose at the coach, players and school. There comes a time in life when you need to be held accountable for your decisions and how you act. She is simply feeling the consequences of how she treated the school, coach and her teammates. Crosson is the coach at Cal Poly, Croson is a volleyball player. I don't recall her saying Hawaii was the place she always wanted to be, nor were her family 100% behind her decision to go to there. There were other schools in play during her recruitment, most notably LBSU. None of that is particularly relevant, though. Croson leaving Hawaii was a good decision for her, and frankly a good decision for the Hawaii program. Sometimes a fresh start is best for everyone. I know Dave's rationale for denying a release, and while I don't necessarily agree 100% with it, I respect his position. Not surprised he is apparently reconsidering, either. Let it go.
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Post by po'okela on Aug 14, 2013 13:15:46 GMT -5
We do know Dave went to great deal of effort to recruit Crosson and she always said Hawaii was the place she wanted to be at. Her parents were 1000% behind the decision to go there. Once she was set free and able to determine how she ran her life, became responsible for her own decisions and how she mentally prepared to enter college and play D! volleyball, Crosson began to spin out of control. She became her own worst enemy. The Hawaii volleyball program and school did everything possible to help Crosson. However Crosson decided not to help herself and continued to spiral out of control. This was her decision and hers alone. She was given plenty of chances but passed and became a detriment to the team. Why all this happened is another thread page. It is one thing to grant a player a waiver when there is a mutual respect and understanding. However in this case it seems rather one sided that Crosson simply thumb her nose at the coach, players and school. There comes a time in life when you need to be held accountable for your decisions and how you act. She is simply feeling the consequences of how she treated the school, coach and her teammates. Crosson is the coach at Cal Poly, Croson is a volleyball player. I don't recall her saying Hawaii was the place she always wanted to be, nor were her family 100% behind her decision to go to there. There were other schools in play during her recruitment, most notably LBSU. None of that is particularly relevant, though. Croson leaving Hawaii was a good decision for her, and frankly a good decision for the Hawaii program. Sometimes a fresh start is best for everyone. I know Dave's rationale for denying a release, and while I don't necessarily agree 100% with it, I respect his position. Not surprised he is apparently reconsidering, either. Let it go. hawaii had been croson's #1 choice for years, it's unfortunate how things work out sometimes.
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Post by po'okela on Aug 14, 2013 13:17:29 GMT -5
I'm curious to see how she'll react to playing at home with no more than 150 people in the stands lmao.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 14, 2013 14:15:09 GMT -5
We do know Dave went to great deal of effort to recruit Crosson and she always said Hawaii was the place she wanted to be at. Her parents were 1000% behind the decision to go there. Once she was set free and able to determine how she ran her life, became responsible for her own decisions and how she mentally prepared to enter college and play D! volleyball, Crosson began to spin out of control. She became her own worst enemy. The Hawaii volleyball program and school did everything possible to help Crosson. However Crosson decided not to help herself and continued to spiral out of control. This was her decision and hers alone. She was given plenty of chances but passed and became a detriment to the team. Why all this happened is another thread page. It is one thing to grant a player a waiver when there is a mutual respect and understanding. However in this case it seems rather one sided that Crosson simply thumb her nose at the coach, players and school. There comes a time in life when you need to be held accountable for your decisions and how you act. She is simply feeling the consequences of how she treated the school, coach and her teammates. Lots of kids find that their interests and goals change between the time that they are deciding on colleges and the time they graduate from college. The decision to take a new direction (especially at that age) is not an idication that one's life is "spiraling out of control."
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Post by StuffU on Aug 14, 2013 14:26:27 GMT -5
It could indirectly help Hawaii's RPI.
Arizona with Croson playing is going to get more wins than Arizona playing without Croson.
The better Arizona's win/loss record, the better for Hawaii's RPI.
just a thought, not that it should be relevant in considering the waiver.
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Post by sasa on Aug 14, 2013 14:35:52 GMT -5
Hawaii has to beat Arizona with Croson first to receive the RPI benefit you're talking about.
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Post by StuffU on Aug 14, 2013 14:38:16 GMT -5
Hawaii has to beat Arizona with Croson first to receive the RPI benefit you're talking about. That makes it a bigger boost, but Hawaii receives the benefit of Arizona's TOTAL win/loss record. So the better Arizona's record, the better for Hawaii.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 14, 2013 14:45:14 GMT -5
Hawaii has to beat Arizona with Croson first to receive the RPI benefit you're talking about. Nope. RPI (in its basic form) does not care who you beat or who you lose to. The observation was 100% correct -- the more Arizona wins this year, the more benefit that Hawaii will get for having scheduled them.
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