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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 4, 2013 11:49:05 GMT -5
Following the Washington win over Utah, Jim McLaughlin said of Cassie Strickland: "She passed at 83%; that’s unheard of."
How is passing percentage calculated?
How unheard of is passing at 83%?
How useful is this statistic?
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Nov 4, 2013 11:51:21 GMT -5
Does that mean 83% perfect passes?
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Post by n00b on Nov 4, 2013 12:03:17 GMT -5
In that context, it certainly sounds like 83% perfect.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 4, 2013 12:03:54 GMT -5
The only definition I found was at USA Volleyball, which is 2 + 3 passes / total passes. That would mean Strickland had 83% 2 and 3 passes vs 17% 0 and 1 passes.
I don't know if that is what McLaughlin was referring to, however. I suppose it depends on how "unheard of" 83% would be.
Note, his "unheard of" comment might have been hyperbole - it obviously isn't "unheard of", if Strickland did it. I'm assuming he's saying it is a very high percentage.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 12:31:43 GMT -5
83% perfect. In other words, 3's/total passes. 2's are not considered perfect.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Nov 4, 2013 12:48:38 GMT -5
The only definition I found was at USA Volleyball, which is 2 + 3 passes / total passes. That would mean Strickland had 83% 2 and 3 passes vs 17% 0 and 1 passes. I don't know if that is what McLaughlin was referring to, however. I suppose it depends on how "unheard of" 83% would be. Note, his "unheard of" comment might have been hyperbole - it obviously isn't "unheard of", if Strickland did it. I'm assuming he's saying it is a very high percentage. I would think he is referring to perfect passes. 83% of passes being a 2 or 3, wouldn't be "unheard of" |
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Post by cardinalvolleyball on Nov 4, 2013 13:50:54 GMT -5
Its very relevant, we use it throughout the year. I wonder if he meant SR or if he added in digs as well. 83% for SR is pretty darn good, but we have kids that have done that. 83% of every ball she touched would be pretty crazy though.
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 4, 2013 14:00:15 GMT -5
I did a little math.
Assuming that she passed 100 passes. And assuming the usual grading of passes, i.e. 3, 2, 1, 0 grades.
I set the quality of overall passing at 2.5 or 2.6, which is pretty good.
The 83% perfect passing percentage I defined as two pass and three pass totaling 83 perfect passes. Which makes the 1 pass and shanks total out to 17 out of 100. I assumed that there were no shanks to make the math easier, this makes the analysis the best case scenario.
If she was passing 83% and 2.5 on the quality scale, she would have to have 67 three passes and 16 two passes.
For 2.6 passing, she would have to pass 77 three passes and 6 two passes.
the 2.6 passing case is kind of weird because of the definition of 83%. This means that she would have to have more one passes than two passes, 17 versus 6.
If she was passing 83% perfect three passes, assuming that the other 17 passes were two passes, she would be passing 2.83. Not unheard of.
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Post by volleyhead on Nov 4, 2013 14:11:00 GMT -5
I don't think Washington focuses on pass average but rather perfect pass%. How they define their perfect pass is not known. Some teams have a perfect "perfect" pass where basically the setter doesn't have to move. Then a typical perfect pass might be in a small area, 5-6 feet off the net and in middle 2/3 of the court. It is widely known that Washington follows the GM2 philosophy of not trying to pass up tight to the net so I would imagine that Jim meant she passed 83% perfect in their perfect zone which might be bigger than most teams. Doesn't really matter though, with their offense to pass 83% of her passes in a perceived perfect zone with those outsides will cause opponents problems...maybe Utah shouldn't have targeted Strickland. There is a reason that a 5'8 kid with a good arm is out there and it's not because she can't ball control well:)
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Post by vllybll09 on Nov 4, 2013 20:48:22 GMT -5
Whatever the equation for how they are figuring it out, seems that she is doing something right. Sounded like Al Scates and Paul Sunderland were fans of her passing ability and defense on sunday as well. I would venture to say that there are a few balls that she has gotten to and not only put her hands on (when many other players wouldn't be able to) but she puts up a very settable ball and if she isn't making the first contact and needs to make the second, she is also very capable of putting out a very hittable ball. An all around gamer and definitely an asset that UW is very much glad to have I am sure  |
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