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Post by roofed! on Dec 30, 2003 15:37:56 GMT -5
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Post by roy on Dec 30, 2003 15:57:23 GMT -5
I am a little surprised Cruz didn't make it. She is a great player, but maybe her stats are not as strong as the others. Just a theory, but I can't get onto the Florida website to compare. The winner is going to be either Ross or Willoughby. Oganna and Eveland are great players, but this is going to be a two woman race. Ross has 2 national titles and numerous awards. Willoughby has the POY and amazing stats. |
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Post by brybry on Dec 30, 2003 16:34:18 GMT -5
Does anyone think that Eveland is National Team quality? I only saw a little bit of her during that Regional Final against Hawaii but was very impressed. How do you guys rate her and do you know if she's looking to continue playing beyond college.
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Post by silverbongfour20 on Dec 30, 2003 17:21:21 GMT -5
Eveland was a great setter, better than most in my opinion, but I don't think she's national team material. They way GT ran their offense is different than how Team USA runs it's offense. GT's coach didn't care if she man handled the ball just as long as she got it out quick and in a hurry. besides, the setting position is already filled. Robyn is a definate starter. However, eveland could play over seas in Spain or Brazil...she'd do well professionally.
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Post by GatorVball on Dec 30, 2003 18:33:50 GMT -5
Cruz was a finalist last year, along with Tom, Willoughby and Adams and should've been a finalist again this year. Her overall stats are as good as anyone in the country. Oh well.
Aury's stats
4.44 kpg, hit .300, 3.44 digs/game, 0.53 aces/game, 0.62 blocks/game.
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Post by aaronic on Dec 30, 2003 19:36:42 GMT -5
do you think ogonna should be on? But I surely thought Cruz would.
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Post by GatorVball on Dec 30, 2003 19:43:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't put Ogonna or Eveland on that list ahead of Cruz, no way, no how. I may be biased, but Cruz is one of the 3 best players in the country and her all around game is the best, IMO.
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Post by Nutter on Dec 30, 2003 20:08:40 GMT -5
Who chooses the VB finalists for this award?
What is the selection criteria?
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Post by brybry on Dec 30, 2003 20:22:05 GMT -5
Eveland was a great setter, better than most in my opinion, but I don't think she's national team material. They way GT ran their offense is different than how Team USA runs it's offense. GT's coach didn't care if she man handled the ball just as long as she got it out quick and in a hurry. besides, the setting position is already filled. Robyn is a definate starter. However, eveland could play over seas in Spain or Brazil...she'd do well professionally. Well, obviously Eveland wouldn't even be a candidate for the National Team this season. I think the last thing you want to do is introduce a new setter w/ the Olympics looming. So many teams run such a vanilla offense. I would love to see Team USA run a fast offense. We probably don't have the personell to do that unfortunately. It wouldn't have to as quick as the Asian teams but something along the lines of the Brazilian team in the mid 90s would be great. |
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Post by roy on Dec 30, 2003 20:36:29 GMT -5
Well, obviously Eveland wouldn't even be a candidate for the National Team this season. I think the last thing you want to do is introduce a new setter w/ the Olympics looming. So many teams run such a vanilla offense. I would love to see Team USA run a fast offense. We probably don't have the personell to do that unfortunately. It wouldn't have to as quick as the Asian teams but something along the lines of the Brazilian team in the mid 90s would be great. It would be nice, but Eveland has a lot to work on if she wants to make the national team. The potential is definately there. She makes her hitters look really good. But its just the speed of her offense that makes it difficult for opposing teams. She is decently deceptive but she tends to be a bit sloppy. If she were being judged in the Olympics, she would have been called on a lot of double hits. But the potential is certainly there. |
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Post by BearClause on Dec 30, 2003 20:48:39 GMT -5
Who chooses the VB finalists for this award? What is the selection criteria? I couldn't find out the specifics. However - this is what they say about the criteria for winning the big all-sports award (the Honda-Broderick Cup): www.hondaawards.com |
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Post by kolohe on Dec 30, 2003 22:24:32 GMT -5
Cruz was a finalist last year, along with Tom, Willoughby and Adams and should've been a finalist again this year. Her overall stats are as good as anyone in the country. Oh well. Aury's stats 4.44 kpg, hit .300, 3.44 digs/game, 0.53 aces/game, 0.62 blocks/game. Uh, those numbers are just about the exact same as Lily Kahumoku's (except the aces), and she wasn't even a first-team AA. Lily's line went 4.52 kpg, .291 hitting, 3.48 dpg, 0.21 aces per game and 0.59 bpg. How can Cruz's numbers compare to Willoughby's if it's about the same as Lily's. But then again. Take a look at Ross' numbers. 3.65 kpg, .296 hitting, 3.15 dpg, 0.70 bpg, 0.52 aces per game. Also not impressive. Willoughby's, on the other hand, are 6.60 kpg, .373 hitting, 3.04 dpg, 0.62 aces per game, 0.57 bpg. Statistically, it isn't even near close. Then you can watch them all play in person and realize that the numbers don't lie. |
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Post by BearClause on Dec 30, 2003 22:33:47 GMT -5
Uh, those numbers are just about the exact same as Lily Kahumoku's (except the aces), and she wasn't even a first-team AA. How can those numbers compare. But then again. Take a look at Ross' numbers. Also not impressive. Kahumoku's hitting was .291. April Ross put up .318 hitting against Pac-10 competition. OTOH - I occasionally heard that the numbers aren't as important as which team one plays for. |
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Post by kolohe on Dec 30, 2003 22:36:10 GMT -5
So is there a huge difference between hitting .300 and .291??? Or hitting .291 vs. .296. That could just be the difference made by one bad night (like Kahumoku's bad one vs. USC)
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Post by BearClause on Dec 30, 2003 22:49:09 GMT -5
So is there a huge difference between hitting .300 and .291??? Or hitting .291 vs. .296. That could just be the difference made by one bad night (like Kahumoku's bad one vs. USC) Consider the quality of WAC vs Pac-10 competition. April Ross put up her numbers against a tougher schedule, and that must have figured into the decision. Who knows what the criteria for selection are. Perhaps each team can only nominate one player (like for national FOY). |
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