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Post by HoosierDaddyy on Jan 15, 2004 1:17:31 GMT -5
Beach volleyball is way more popular then indoor volleyball in the us but yet the beach doesnt get much pub on this board and when it does get brought up most people diss it what is up with that?
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Post by georgia(pacific)girl on Jan 15, 2004 1:24:08 GMT -5
Beach volleyball is way more popular then indoor volleyball in the us but yet the beach doesnt get much pub on this board and when it does get brought up most people diss it what is up with that? Huh? Maybe you're confusing beach volleyball (not dissed) with Beach (as in Long Beach) volleyball?
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Post by HoosierDaddyy on Jan 15, 2004 2:23:12 GMT -5
no, people treat beach volleyball like it is a second class sport compared to indoor volleyball.
Beach volleyball is much more popular in the us then indoor volleyball
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Post by IdahoBoy on Jan 15, 2004 2:35:20 GMT -5
Give us examples, hoosierdadddddddyyyyy.
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Post by HoosierDaddyy on Jan 15, 2004 3:52:13 GMT -5
Ok
How about that womens indoor pro league here in the us that went bankrupt last year
also there is no mens indoor pro league
Now lets take a look at the beach game
The avp finals were on NBC every weekend last summer.
When is the last time the indoor game got national weekly coverage on NBC?
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Post by HoosierDaddyy on Jan 15, 2004 3:55:05 GMT -5
Oh yeah and after the avp finals were shown live on NBC
The following week on FOX Sports they would replay the finals all week long plus they had a weekly beach volleyball show
Which volleyball player in the us has the most mainstream fame and recognition? Gabby Reece, who just so happens to be a former pro beach player
Beach is where it is at baby
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Post by USAFAN on Jan 15, 2004 10:24:26 GMT -5
I don't understand your intentions, are you trying to pit beach against indoors? I just find the indoor game much more exciting. I can watch matches from indoors again on tape, however when I have taped the beach game I find myself bored when re-watching it. The indoor game has so many more faces and players that you can be fans of. In the women's outdoor game its pretty much Kerri Walsh and Misty May(who everyone loves because they were great indoor players) and Holly McPeak and Elaine Youngs. I think more people would talk about the beach game on this board if more young players were playing on the tour. There are so many names of people who played college back in the day and a lot of people don't know much about them.
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Jan 15, 2004 11:28:20 GMT -5
Huh? Maybe you're confusing beach volleyball (not dissed) with Beach (as in Long Beach) volleyball? ;D That was my first thought from the title. ;D I thought I had a new ally on this board.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2004 12:02:05 GMT -5
I think IB was asking for examples of people dissing the beach game, not examples of the relative popularity.
But I'll give you an up-to-the-minute example. My own.
The ONLY reason the women's beach game is on TV is because they are wearing bathing suits.
The ONLY reason the men's beach game is on TV is because they can show women spectators wearing bathing suits--or some other excuse to show women wearing bathing suits.
The key here is WOMEN WEARING BATHING SUITS, preferably bikinis.
The mainstream media has ABSOLUTELY ZERO respect for volleyball, beach or indoor.
And, GO BEACH! (Just stay out of my yard.)
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Post by 7thWoman on Jan 15, 2004 14:22:28 GMT -5
I think you're all missing the fact that what goes on TV is based entirely on what business deals get cut, and not necessarily what the average couch potato wants to see. Leonard Armato bought the AVP a few years ago and cut a deal with NBC this past year to air live matches. To afford this, he had to get a ton of sponsors like Paul Mitchell, Miller Lite, X-box, etc. If you watch those AVP matches, there are ad's all over the place. The net's usually say "Lite" all the way across, there is always a big infaltable Paul Mitchell bottle and Wilson volleyball in the corner of the main court, and there are generally a bunch X box girls dancing around or something. If colleges wanted to turn their gymn's into marketing billboards, and get lots of advertisment dollars to put into NBC's pockets, I'm sure NBC would have no problem airing live matches.
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Post by fanofvb on Jan 15, 2004 14:38:13 GMT -5
I love both games, but probably like the beach game a bit more. I will say that it is much much easier to watch a beach game on tv than it is to watch an indoor game, which frustrates me. You just can't get a sense for what is really going on when you watch an indoor game on tv - the footage just doesn't show it all. I really can't see a fix for the problem - and I can see how non-vb people would find it boring to watch because of that. Too bad, since I'm quite sure they would enjoy the live version.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 15, 2004 15:18:02 GMT -5
This is a rather strange argument.
In terms of total spectators, I'd venture that there are more people going to watch women's college volleyball than pro beach events (men's and women's).
As far as TV goes - notice the ads for beer deoderant, etc all over the place. ESPN covers billiards because of sponsorships from equipment makers and casinos. That's what gets them on TV. I'd guess that actual support for beach volleyball is (to borrow a phrase) a mile wide and a foot deep. Skimpy outfits and blaring music can only hold attention for so long.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Jan 15, 2004 15:21:53 GMT -5
Skimpy outfits and blaring music can only hold attention for so long. Really? Eventually it won't hold my attention any more?!?! I'd better get my fill of it now!!! See ya folks! I'm off to the beach!!
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Jan 15, 2004 15:23:39 GMT -5
Brian ought to hang his bathing suit up. The last 2 years, One and done in the NCAA tournament. He's losing his touch. Speaking of Bathing suits, Why are they called that? Nobody bathes in them. I mean people may shower in them after a swim but bathe? "Showering/Swimming suit" would be better terminology.
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Post by Psychopotamus on Jan 15, 2004 15:24:40 GMT -5
I never thought about sports in terms of easy to watch. I guess you are correct, at least about the simplicity of the sport.
You hardly hear someone watching a basketball game ask what's going on. OTOH some "complicated" sports like football have a rabid following (I guess a product of feeling like you're in a special club?). Then, the simplest of sports, like golf, tennis, track and field, have some of the smallest followings. Maybe they are just too simple.
For me, I can't really watch beach volleyball for that same reason: there just isn't enough going on to keep my interest. And I can't watch football because there is too much going on.
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