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Post by mnsports255 on Oct 22, 2014 23:44:22 GMT -5
Another problem. 2,500 attendance v. Nebraska. Ouch. $15 tix, 6:30 start, on a Wednesday night for a poor product. It's the same reason why half the Target Center isn't filled for the Timberwolves games. High price, bad value. That's the difference between attending last year and this year. I think I maximize my utility by staying at home for premium matches now and saving my time and money anyways! *Btw, back to Wilhite, she does best with high sets pushing her to the outside (which extends her reach). I'd love to see her take a Daly-sized swing once. With Daly-like agressiveness, she could be an All-American. I don't think she has it in her, nor is it apart of her game though.
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 23, 2014 0:24:13 GMT -5
Interesting stat that right sides led two of the four teams playing in the league in digs tonight. Amber Rolfzen and Courtney Thomas.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 2:12:15 GMT -5
A poor product? I'll give you lower quality product, but not poor.
Anyhow, that was my point. The new ticketing and seating policy is slowly but surely impacting attendance. Negatively. I'm sure the record has an effect, too, but I don't think it's nearly as big of a factor as Wednesday matches, early starts, high prices, restrictive seating.
*So here we have one poster who wants her set high and outside and another who wants her set inside and off the net. You want her set high and outside, but then say she doesn't have it in her to swing aggressively. I think that could change; the question is does she have the power? If she doesn't, that high and outside set is going to get dug -- even if she were hitting over the block (which she does not do against a block the size of Nebraska's).
For now, she, like many of the others, needs to do what she is capable of doing when the game or the match is on the line. That alone will be a huge step in the right direction. Expecting her to be an elite terminator, an AA, is pie-in-the-sky right now. Just play to your ability when it matters.
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Post by alpacaone on Oct 23, 2014 6:09:37 GMT -5
Another problem. 2,500 attendance v. Nebraska. Ouch. Did the camera somehow totally miss the student section, all I saw were a lot of old farts everywhere?
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Post by milkmandan on Oct 23, 2014 7:51:05 GMT -5
The last 5 pages of this thread would give me the impression the direction of the match changed somewhere. I won't lose sleep over whichever direction it continues to go, but I felt the need to dispute that Amber has more potential than Kadie. Maybe as a business major. Certainly not as an outside hitter. They are identical twins, aren't they? Their physical potential is more or less equal. Attitude or environment is the main determinant of their potential. If you're right, then it strengthens my belief that Kadie has a bit higher ceiling simply because she seems to be more aggressive. Though, if Amber was playing on the left instead of the right, maybe she would be more aggressive too. I'll be interested to see if the plan changes next season when Foecke comes in and plays on the right.
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Post by nothingbutcorn on Oct 23, 2014 8:45:34 GMT -5
NE goes as Mary goes. Mary started out pretty average but got better. Fien changed this match. She started hitting shots and Mary's play went up and the rest of them benefited from it. Mary is a inconsistent setter at best. Mary had some great passes early on and did nothing with them. Granted she also had some stinkers, but when you are getting a perfect pass and then set a bad ball from it that the hitter has limited options with then it can snow ball from there.
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Post by alpacaone on Oct 23, 2014 10:07:51 GMT -5
I think what saved this match for Nebraska were the saves they were able to make. Fein turned things around, but the scrambles seemed to me to slow the Gophers momentum (there errors aside)
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 23, 2014 10:18:13 GMT -5
NE goes as Mary goes. Mary started out pretty average but got better. Fien changed this match. She started hitting shots and Mary's play went up and the rest of them benefited from it. Mary is a inconsistent setter at best. Mary had some great passes early on and did nothing with them. Granted she also had some stinkers, but when you are getting a perfect pass and then set a bad ball from it that the hitter has limited options with then it can snow ball from there. Did the quality of Mary's sets really improve that much? I think the turn-around had more to do with (a) Nebraska finally not letting the obvious tips fall for points and (b) Fien putting the ball down and the rest of the Husker hitters not hitting every 3rd ball into the rafters
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Post by hammer on Oct 23, 2014 10:54:21 GMT -5
Another problem. 2,500 attendance v. Nebraska. Ouch. Did the camera somehow totally miss the student section, all I saw were a lot of old farts everywhere? Did you miss diversity training?
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Post by kabvb on Oct 23, 2014 11:10:51 GMT -5
Guess Pollmiller learned how to set by the end of the match . Nope, Minnesota is just terrible. I am sorry I just don't buy into that.Looked to me like they needed someone off the bench to put some effort into it. She was the setter last year wasn't she? They had a pretty good season didn't they? When you have two clearly frustrated players rolling their eyes at teammates when they make an error - you have an ego issue not a setter issue. Is she the best setter - no but shes not the blame for this teams problems. #5 which I believe is Amber had a ball tipped over her and it dropped - she stood for a few seconds and glared at the back row player because she didn't get the tip. She doesn't know that she could throw her arms out and try to retrieve? or maybe she just thinks that's not her job. Shes only there for the thunderous kills that make her look good. She gave a similar glare to the OH that tipped for the last point in the Illini game. Some people have a rough time controlling their facial expressions,she might want to work on that. Minnesota on the other hand looked like a team, one that's beat up a little bit but a TEAM . Santana can barely jump but both the Tap sisters are playing phenomenal they are just still young. The setter is above average BUT made her teammates feel confident the entire match. She set a nice ball to the RS and she hit into the block- the setter immediately took blame in order to give her hitters the confidence they needed. They might not be winning,but they will and when they all get healthy they will be better off then the Nebraska.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 11:26:10 GMT -5
They are identical twins, aren't they? Their physical potential is more or less equal. Attitude or environment is the main determinant of their potential. If you're right, then it strengthens my belief that Kadie has a bit higher ceiling simply because she seems to be more aggressive. Though, if Amber was playing on the left instead of the right, maybe she would be more aggressive too. I'll be interested to see if the plan changes next season when Foecke comes in and plays on the right. Identical twins doesn't mean they literally are identical. Wikipedia ( the source for all truth ): "Twins can either be monozygotic ("identical"), meaning that they develop from one zygote that splits and forms two embryos. or dizygotic ("fraternal"), meaning that they develop from two eggs, each fertilized by separate sperm cells. . . . Monozygotic twins, although genetically very similar, are not genetically exactly the same. A study, carried out in November 2012, provided evidence that genetic mutations occurring during embryonic cell-division, after the point of fertilization, are possible, and that they occur at a much greater frequency than previously thought. Mutations such as these occur randomly in the DNA of monozygotic twin embryos after the splitting of the embryo, creating numerous differences in the genetic code of the twin embryos. The researchers studied 92 pairs of monozygotic twins, and they were able to estimate that on average, a pair of monozygotic twins will have about 360 genetic differences that occurred very early in fetal development. These genetic differences that occur very early in fetal development will be present in a very large proportion of body cells. Such mutational differences can, in theory, occur at any point during life, but those that occur at a later stage will be present in a much smaller proportion of body cells" So the Rolfzens may have different arm strengths, vertical, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 11:38:57 GMT -5
I think what saved this match for Nebraska were the saves they were able to make. Fein turned things around, but the scrambles seemed to me to slow the Gophers momentum (there errors aside) Nebraska can play some pretty good defense. See the PSU match. They never really covered the tips well, but they got to some of them. Fein sided out for them. Most importantly, they stopped giving the Gophers points from the service line and attacking. The Gophers had 7 hitting errors through 2 games. Nebraska had 14. Minnesota finished with 25, as did Nebraska. It's like the teams switched jerseys.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 11:43:01 GMT -5
#5 which I believe is Amber had a ball tipped over her and it dropped - she stood for a few seconds and glared at the back row player because she didn't get the tip. She doesn't know that she could throw her arms out and try to retrieve? or maybe she just thinks that's not her job. Shes only there for the thunderous kills that make her look good. She gave a similar glare to the OH that tipped for the last point in the Illini game. Some people have a rough time controlling their facial expressions,she might want to work on that. I noticed this too, but wasn't going to say anything because I thought maybe I was the only one who caught it or thought it was a bit overdramatic. There were several times during the match I felt the looks she gave her teammates were way too 'stern.'
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 11:46:58 GMT -5
I think what saved this match for Nebraska were the saves they were able to make. Fein turned things around, but the scrambles seemed to me to slow the Gophers momentum (there errors aside) Nebraska can play some pretty good defense. See the PSU match. They never really covered the tips well, but they got to some of them. Fein sided out for them. Most importantly, they stopped giving the Gophers points from the service line and attacking. The Gophers had 7 hitting errors through 2 games. Nebraska had 14. Minnesota finished with 25, as did Nebraska. It's like the teams switched jerseys. either they switched jerseys, or the skewed court size (which was clearly six inches too short in favor of Minnesota the first two sets) switched teams.
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 23, 2014 12:45:08 GMT -5
Guess Pollmiller learned how to set by the end of the match . Not really...just marginally improved
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