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Post by utexrulz23 on Jun 10, 2015 17:25:32 GMT -5
What number will Ebony wear at Texas?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jun 10, 2015 17:46:30 GMT -5
The rewards and benefits have been much greater than what your Stanford team has accomplished recently. Maybe they need your advice much more than Texas does when it comes to recruiting . . . Texas may get into the semis but their path to it is so much easier. And when they reach the semis they lose because they can't pass or set. How is their "path" easier? They don't even know the path until the season is over.
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 10, 2015 17:51:47 GMT -5
Texas may get into the semis but their path to it is so much easier. And when they reach the semis they lose because they can't pass or set. How is their "path" easier? They don't even know the path until the season is over. Their scheduling is not tough. The only really challenging teams for the 2015 year is Oregon and Nebraska. Teams like Penn State play so much more teams that are better-Wisconsin, Illinois, Nebraska, Stanford, etc. I mean I guess Kansas is pretty good but not really seeing Texas trying to challenge themselves.
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Post by ballervolley on Jun 10, 2015 18:04:24 GMT -5
How is their "path" easier? They don't even know the path until the season is over. Their scheduling is not tough. The only really challenging teams for the 2015 year is Oregon and Nebraska. Teams like Penn State play so much more teams that are better-Wisconsin, Illinois, Nebraska, Stanford, etc. I mean I guess Kansas is pretty good but not really seeing Texas trying to challenge themselves. yawn
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jun 10, 2015 18:07:12 GMT -5
How is their "path" easier? They don't even know the path until the season is over. Their scheduling is not tough. The only really challenging teams for the 2015 year is Oregon and Nebraska. Teams like Penn State play so much more teams that are better-Wisconsin, Illinois, Nebraska, Stanford, etc. I mean I guess Kansas is pretty good but not really seeing Texas trying to challenge themselves. You're right, because the teams they play in conference is totally up to them. Nebraska Florida Colorado State Arizona Oklahoma Kansas Iowa State Baylor (possibly) K-State (possibly) LSU (possibly) Anywhere from 7-10 teams that will be in the top 25. Isn't the toughest schedule ever, but it's no slouch. People keep bringing up the point about Texas having an easy path, and while they did have a relatively easy path last year, no one would want to go through USC, Florida, Oregon, Wisconsin, and Nebraska at Nebraska. And those are just 2012/2013
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 10, 2015 18:09:20 GMT -5
Their scheduling is not tough. The only really challenging teams for the 2015 year is Oregon and Nebraska. Teams like Penn State play so much more teams that are better-Wisconsin, Illinois, Nebraska, Stanford, etc. I mean I guess Kansas is pretty good but not really seeing Texas trying to challenge themselves. You're right, because the teams they play in conference is totally up to them. Nebraska Florida Colorado State Arizona Oklahoma Kansas Iowa State Baylor (possibly) K-State (possibly) LSU (possibly) Anywhere from 7-10 teams that will be in the top 25. Isn't the toughest schedule ever, but it's no slouch. People keep bringing up the point about Texas having an easy path, and while they did have a relatively easy path last year, no one would want to go through USC, Florida, Oregon, Wisconsin, and Nebraska at Nebraska. And those are just 2012/2013 I mean even North Carolina was easy in that regional final. Penn state, or even Washington would've crushed North Carolina.
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Post by southie on Jun 10, 2015 18:11:35 GMT -5
The rewards and benefits have been much greater than what your Stanford team has accomplished recently. Maybe they need your advice much more than Texas does when it comes to recruiting . . . Texas may get into the semis but their path to it is so much easier. And when they reach the semis they lose because they can't pass or set. Let me get this straight. Texas, despite not being able to pass or set, has one national title, a runner-up finish, and 3 other semi-final appearances in the last 6 seasons. But, Stanford with all their All-American setters and backrow players has only been able to muster one semi-final appearance in that same time period. Guess they can only be successful with perfect passes to their middles as they don't have elite hitters who can terminate out-of-system balls. As for that "easy" path, Stanford playing at home or in nearby Berkeley during NCAA play is as easy as it gets; no reason for all those choke-jobs during the last 6 seasons. Maybe it's their recruiting strategy.
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jun 10, 2015 18:12:41 GMT -5
You're right, because the teams they play in conference is totally up to them. Nebraska Florida Colorado State Arizona Oklahoma Kansas Iowa State Baylor (possibly) K-State (possibly) LSU (possibly) Anywhere from 7-10 teams that will be in the top 25. Isn't the toughest schedule ever, but it's no slouch. People keep bringing up the point about Texas having an easy path, and while they did have a relatively easy path last year, no one would want to go through USC, Florida, Oregon, Wisconsin, and Nebraska at Nebraska. And those are just 2012/2013 I mean even North Carolina was easy in that regional final. Penn state, or even Washington would've crushed North Carolina. And I conceded your point. Even I thought that Texas might have been a little over-ranked last year. However, you completely ignored the rest of my post.
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 10, 2015 18:13:25 GMT -5
Texas may get into the semis but their path to it is so much easier. And when they reach the semis they lose because they can't pass or set. Let me get this straight. Texas, despite not being able to pass or set, has one national title, a runner-up finish, and 3 other semi-final appearances in the last 6 seasons. But, Stanford with all their All-American setters and backrow players has only been able to muster one semi-final appearance in that same time period. Guess they can only be successful with perfect passes to their middles as they don't have elite hitters who can terminate out-of-system balls. As for that "easy" path, Stanford playing at home or in nearby Berkeley during NCAA play is as easy as it gets; no reason for all those choke-jobs during the last 6 seasons. Texas couldn't even win with Destinee Hooker. What a shame
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jun 10, 2015 18:16:39 GMT -5
Let me get this straight. Texas, despite not being able to pass or set, has one national title, a runner-up finish, and 3 other semi-final appearances in the last 6 seasons. But, Stanford with all their All-American setters and backrow players has only been able to muster one semi-final appearance in that same time period. Guess they can only be successful with perfect passes to their middles as they don't have elite hitters who can terminate out-of-system balls. As for that "easy" path, Stanford playing at home or in nearby Berkeley during NCAA play is as easy as it gets; no reason for all those choke-jobs during the last 6 seasons. Texas couldn't even win with Destinee Hooker. What a shame Ok now I see that you're obviously trolling. Please just don't muck up this thread too much longer
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Post by ballervolley on Jun 10, 2015 18:19:56 GMT -5
Let me get this straight. Texas, despite not being able to pass or set, has one national title, a runner-up finish, and 3 other semi-final appearances in the last 6 seasons. But, Stanford with all their All-American setters and backrow players has only been able to muster one semi-final appearance in that same time period. Guess they can only be successful with perfect passes to their middles as they don't have elite hitters who can terminate out-of-system balls. As for that "easy" path, Stanford playing at home or in nearby Berkeley during NCAA play is as easy as it gets; no reason for all those choke-jobs during the last 6 seasons. Texas couldn't even win with Destinee Hooker. What a shame hey "bigfan"
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 10, 2015 18:19:54 GMT -5
I mean even North Carolina was easy in that regional final. Penn state, or even Washington would've crushed North Carolina. And I conceded your point. Even I thought that Texas might have been a little over-ranked last year. However, you completely ignored the rest of my post. Texas has a decent shot at the title as long as their new hitters live up to expectations and their setting is refined. Also the passing. Not sure if they'll be able to get past Penn State or Stanford though
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Post by elevationvb on Jun 10, 2015 18:28:11 GMT -5
You wouldn't want a bad* setter. Shorter setters are not bad setters or unathletic setters. I don't understand why so many people make this mischaracterization. There are a dozen things that impact the effectiveness of a setter more than her height. China won with a 5'1" setter for a decade! There are countless examples in our sport of shorter athletes reaching the highest level of competition in spite of their height. Give it up already. It's such a lame critique when you have nothing of value to add to a conversation about their actual skills, abilities, or potential. You took one part of my quote, and directly misquoted me. Not once did I say Collins was a bad setter, nor did I say her skills are bad enough to start in a 5-1. But if you had a 6'2 setter and a 5'7 setter, both with the same skill set and athleticism, which one would you take. SO yes, you WOULDNT want a shorter setter.
I think Elliott has answered your question with the recruiting decision he's made for the setter position in the coming years - - outside hitters for that matter also, imo.
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Post by southie on Jun 10, 2015 18:49:16 GMT -5
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Post by paloalto on Jun 10, 2015 19:04:47 GMT -5
Let me get this straight. Texas, despite not being able to pass or set, has one national title, a runner-up finish, and 3 other semi-final appearances in the last 6 seasons. But, Stanford with all their All-American setters and backrow players has only been able to muster one semi-final appearance in that same time period. Guess they can only be successful with perfect passes to their middles as they don't have elite hitters who can terminate out-of-system balls. As for that "easy" path, Stanford playing at home or in nearby Berkeley during NCAA play is as easy as it gets; no reason for all those choke-jobs during the last 6 seasons. Texas couldn't even win with Destinee Hooker. What a shame tt1089, I don't know if you are a Stanford fan or a troll. If you are a Stanford fan, don't go on other teams' threads and trash them. Texas is an excellent program and your trash talk will not change that. Focus your attention on Stanford if you are a Stanford fan.
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