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Post by spikerthemovie on Feb 10, 2015 23:17:40 GMT -5
Over the past year, she's just one of four top recruits that picked Nebraska over PSU: 1. Foecke 2. Maloney 3. McClellan 4. Holman Throughout their recruiting, all four of them talked about Nebraska players' success overseas and on the NT. They were also enticed by the palatial Devaney and a nation-leading 8000+ fans every home game. I think we're finally starting to see the fruition of moving to the Devaney in our recruiting, and I hear the best is yet to come. I can’t wait until UNL’s third campus, Innovation Campus, is completed. It’s going to completely change the current surroundings of the Devaney, and I think it will be a huge draw for recruits. Now that Nebraska has filled most, if not all their player needs, can you name any top 2016 or 2017 players who have not committed yet. I know some will delay for Stanford but perhaps some would like to play on the NE side of the country. Thanks. There must be a ton of top, uncommitted players from those classes. Even just casually looking at the Northern Lights roster, there's Claire Sheehan and Brie Orr. And that's one club. |
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 10, 2015 23:28:38 GMT -5
People making too big of a deal out of the schedule. The power conferences with more than 11-12 teams are not going to have balance schedules. However, because the B1G has so many good teams - everybody will be challenged. I disagree with you strongly. Everyone will be challenged but some others far more and far less than others. Lets say for example that PSU, Nebraska and Illinois are the three favorites. Nebraska and PSU play each other twice, but Illinois only plays those two once, and one of them is at home, its a HUGE advantage. That of course is just an example, not what the 2015 schedule looks like. Schedule plays a huge role, the question is will their be a tournament which is on the table. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 3:32:15 GMT -5
Interesting that Foecke is listed at Outside Right. I wonder if that's her preference. I don't think she has the lateral speed to play middle at the high international level. She was effective on youth/junior national teams, but I think her future will be on a pin. Incredible attacker, but slow feet. |
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 11, 2015 10:22:20 GMT -5
A tournament to determine the conference winner and auto bid raises a whole new set of questions about the value of the schedule, particularly if and when upsets occur. In a weak conference, an upset (in seeding terms) in the tournament might yield an extra tourney spot. In a strong conference, a tournament upset simply supplants and/or reorders the conference schedule/results. I don't see it truly solving the schedule issue.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 11, 2015 10:30:33 GMT -5
A tournament to determine the conference winner and auto bid raises a whole new set of questions about the value of the schedule, particularly if and when upsets occur. In a weak conference, an upset (in seeding terms) in the tournament might yield an extra tourney spot. In a strong conference, a tournament upset simply supplants and/or reorders the conference schedule/results. I don't see it truly solving the schedule issue. I hate the idea of a conference tournament. There is a big difference between having to be good week in and week out, and grind your way to the title, then there is playing ok all year, and catching lightning in a bottle over three days. They are looking at a bunch of "tournament" options. Having the whole league participate is a long tournament, where do you have it, how do you make money? Coaches aren't in agreement, administrators arent in agreement coaches and administrators from the same school arent in agreement........ We shall see. |
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 11, 2015 10:51:32 GMT -5
A tournament to determine the conference winner and auto bid raises a whole new set of questions about the value of the schedule, particularly if and when upsets occur. In a weak conference, an upset (in seeding terms) in the tournament might yield an extra tourney spot. In a strong conference, a tournament upset simply supplants and/or reorders the conference schedule/results. I don't see it truly solving the schedule issue. I hate the idea of a conference tournament. There is a big difference between having to be good week in and week out, and grind your way to the title, then there is playing ok all year, and catching lightning in a bottle over three days. They are looking at a bunch of "tournament" options. Having the whole league participate is a long tournament, where do you have it, how do you make money? Coaches aren't in agreement, administrators arent in agreement coaches and administrators from the same school arent in agreement........ We shall see. I agree. A strong conference especially won't gain much from a tournament's ancillary benefits. Moreover, if the team loses in the tournament after leading in the conference results, you'll start seeing references to the Conference Champions and to the Conference season winner, etc., which in my mind only dilutes the value of the conference championship. |
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 11, 2015 10:57:42 GMT -5
I hate the idea of a conference tournament. There is a big difference between having to be good week in and week out, and grind your way to the title, then there is playing ok all year, and catching lightning in a bottle over three days. They are looking at a bunch of "tournament" options. Having the whole league participate is a long tournament, where do you have it, how do you make money? Coaches aren't in agreement, administrators arent in agreement coaches and administrators from the same school arent in agreement........ We shall see. I agree. A strong conference especially won't gain much from a tournament's ancillary benefits. Moreover, if the team loses in the tournament after leading in the conference results, you'll start seeing references to the Conference Champions and to the Conference season winner, etc., which in my mind only dilutes the value of the conference championship. It doesnt appear now that a tournament is an option (thank God) I think you will see the same format from last year which coaches don't like or divisions. In the division format, teams play teams in their division twice, and the other division teams once, division winners have one game playoff. |
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Post by #skoskers on Feb 11, 2015 11:02:15 GMT -5
I agree. A strong conference especially won't gain much from a tournament's ancillary benefits. Moreover, if the team loses in the tournament after leading in the conference results, you'll start seeing references to the Conference Champions and to the Conference season winner, etc., which in my mind only dilutes the value of the conference championship. It doesnt appear now that a tournament is an option (thank God) I think you will see the same format from last year which coaches don't like or divisions. In the division format, teams play teams in their division twice, and the other division teams once, division winners have one game playoff. Which teams will be in each division? |
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Post by vbprisoner on Feb 11, 2015 11:31:16 GMT -5
I agree. A strong conference especially won't gain much from a tournament's ancillary benefits. Moreover, if the team loses in the tournament after leading in the conference results, you'll start seeing references to the Conference Champions and to the Conference season winner, etc., which in my mind only dilutes the value of the conference championship. It doesnt appear now that a tournament is an option (thank God) I think you will see the same format from last year which coaches don't like or divisions. In the division format, teams play teams in their division twice, and the other division teams once, division winners have one game playoff. If you think about it, this is no different than the format large conferences do football today except instead of multiple games again opponent it is one game against each division team, and 2or 3 games against other division opponents. Also, B1G volleyball could also be similar to SEC or B1G football with one division being slightly stronger so teams in that division beat up on each other and affects rankings a bit. |
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 11, 2015 11:36:04 GMT -5
It doesnt appear now that a tournament is an option (thank God) I think you will see the same format from last year which coaches don't like or divisions. In the division format, teams play teams in their division twice, and the other division teams once, division winners have one game playoff. If you think about it, this is no different than the format large conferences do football today except instead of multiple games again opponent it is one game against each division team, and 2or 3 games against other division opponents. Also, B1G volleyball could also be similar to SEC or B1G football with one division being slightly stronger so teams in that division beat up on each other and affects rankings a bit. Yes, the divisions with a one game playoff is a football model. |
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Post by vbprisoner on Feb 11, 2015 12:36:34 GMT -5
It doesnt appear now that a tournament is an option (thank God) I think you will see the same format from last year which coaches don't like or divisions. In the division format, teams play teams in their division twice, and the other division teams once, division winners have one game playoff. Which teams will be in each division? Would the divisions in B1G not be aligned the same way football divisions are set up? I would think once a conference sets two divisions for one sport it is the same for all sports. |
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Post by #skoskers on Feb 11, 2015 12:42:32 GMT -5
Which teams will be in each division? Would the divisions in B1G not be aligned the same way football divisions are set up? I would think once a conference sets two divisions for one sport it is the same for all sports. I think I'm one of the very few in the state that doesn't follow football religiously. |
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Post by #skoskers on Feb 11, 2015 12:46:58 GMT -5
Which teams will be in each division? Would the divisions in B1G not be aligned the same way football divisions are set up? I would think once a conference sets two divisions for one sport it is the same for all sports. I just Googled the divisions... East Divisions: Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State and Rutgers. West Division: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue and Wisconsin. Nebraska would have to play Rutgers, Maryland, and Indiana only once, which is better for their RPI than playing them twice. It's lame, however, to not have Nebraska and PSU playing each other twice in the conference each year. |
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 11, 2015 14:36:17 GMT -5
Would the divisions in B1G not be aligned the same way football divisions are set up? I would think once a conference sets two divisions for one sport it is the same for all sports. I just Googled the divisions... East Divisions: Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State and Rutgers. West Division: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue and Wisconsin. Nebraska would have to play Rutgers, Maryland, and Indiana only once, which is better for their RPI than playing them twice. It's lame, however, to not have Nebraska and PSU playing each other twice in the conference each year. Under these divisions, PSU and UW would have played the one game playoff and I think we can safely say PSU would have won the Big. The West division is way tougher by the way. |
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Post by #skoskers on Feb 11, 2015 16:23:38 GMT -5
I just Googled the divisions... East Divisions: Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State and Rutgers. West Division: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue and Wisconsin. Nebraska would have to play Rutgers, Maryland, and Indiana only once, which is better for their RPI than playing them twice. It's lame, however, to not have Nebraska and PSU playing each other twice in the conference each year. Under these divisions, PSU and UW would have played the one game playoff and I think we can safely say PSU would have won the Big. The West division is way tougher by the way. Agreed. |
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