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Post by jsn112 on Aug 23, 2015 12:36:18 GMT -5
I would comfortably say that the only acceptable goal is a NC for the 2015, as we are on the PSU 2015 thread. Imo, a 6-2 would certainly get the team far and maybe some significant wins, but a 5-1, based on the roster, the system that they are used to and the history of substituting , would get them closer to their goal. Favorite? Not comfortable going there...yet. you're not comfortable with them as the favorite but the only acceptable goal is the NC? I would say the goal would be a title, but it wouldnt be unacceptable if this group didnt get there. I think a great goal is for them to compete for the Big and NC. Winning them would be a bonus. I'm sure their goal is what it is every year, to be the best team they can be Who do you think is the favorite? True that Penn State lost Micha, but Stanford just lost Inky for 2015. Compare between Penn State and Stanford: OHs - Penn State RS - Penn State Middle - maybe tie Setter - Stanford Backcourt - Stanford Do you see Texas or Nebraska on the same level as these two?
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Post by bballnut90 on Aug 23, 2015 13:12:54 GMT -5
to be the best team they can be And running a 5-1 will get them closer to that imo. I said they would win two year ago after the MSU loss at home and was fortunate to have guessed right. To be being THE favorite to win I will need a closer look see this group in action. So I guess if you are looking for a prediction. If they run a 5-1 I think they have a better chance at winning the B1G and NC. But heck they MIGHT do both with a 6-2. Agree on running the 5-1. The only advantage a 6-2 poses would be that it allows Penn State to utilize all of their top hitters so they don't have top 15 recruits riding the pine. Penn State has been the premier program the last decade running a 5-1 the entire time, with both short and tall setters. In the last 20ish years, the only championship teams that have run 6-2s are Stanford in 1994 when they had 2 All-American setters who played in all 6 rotations, and 2002 USC who had 2 strong setters who had similar setting styles. I haven't seen much of Rivera, but I cannot imagine that she has a similar setting style to Weiskircher. The last couple of times Penn State had a real battle for the starting setter role was in 2006 and 2011. In 2006, it was 2 elite prospects in Glass and Yanz duking it out. Rose chose Glass and she went on to lead Penn State to three titles. Yanz ultimately ended up transferring. In 2011 it was Carp who just led PSU to a title, and Hancock who was a freshman. Hancock won and eventually led PSU to three Final Fours and 2 titles. Carp ended up playing a minimal role her last two years. With Weiskircher and Rivera, I think we'll see the same in that Russ will pick one, and the other will essentially be a non impact player for PSU volleyball over the next three years. It may sound harsh, but that's how Russ has found so much success this decade.
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Post by Disc808 on Aug 23, 2015 13:21:44 GMT -5
you're not comfortable with them as the favorite but the only acceptable goal is the NC? I would say the goal would be a title, but it wouldnt be unacceptable if this group didnt get there. I think a great goal is for them to compete for the Big and NC. Winning them would be a bonus. I'm sure their goal is what it is every year, to be the best team they can be Who do you think is the favorite? True that Penn State lost Micha, but Stanford just lost Inky for 2015. Compare between Penn State and Stanford: OHs - Penn State RS - Penn State Middle - maybe tie Setter - Stanford Backcourt - Stanford Do you see Texas or Nebraska on the same level as these two? The Texas outsides are probably their weakest positions and are probably not comparable to Nebraska, Penn State, and Stanford. everything else is probably on the same level except the backcourt. Nebraska would've probably been on the 'same level' and probably a favorite if Briana was eligible to play. Their weakest position is in the middle I think. Stanford's weakest position may be the M2 position as of now.
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Post by dwblue on Aug 23, 2015 15:08:05 GMT -5
And running a 5-1 will get them closer to that imo. I said they would win two year ago after the MSU loss at home and was fortunate to have guessed right. To be being THE favorite to win I will need a closer look see this group in action. So I guess if you are looking for a prediction. If they run a 5-1 I think they have a better chance at winning the B1G and NC. But heck they MIGHT do both with a 6-2. The last couple of times Penn State had a real battle for the starting setter role was in 2006 and 2011. In 2006, it was 2 elite prospects in Glass and Yanz duking it out. Rose chose Glass and she went on to lead Penn State to three titles. Yanz ultimately ended up transferring. In 2011 it was Carp who just led PSU to a title, and Hancock who was a freshman. Hancock won and eventually led PSU to three Final Fours and 2 titles. Carp ended up playing a minimal role her last two years. With Weiskircher and Rivera, I think we'll see the same in that Russ will pick one, and the other will essentially be a non impact player for PSU volleyball over the next three years. It may sound harsh, but that's how Russ has found so much success this decade. Not harsh at all. It's the reality of big time sports. However, I wonder if in this instance the past is not prologue. That things might be a bit more fluid for a while? Early on in her recruitment and signing with Penn State a couple of posters on VT posited that Rivera could be the starting setter by the end of the year. Weiskircher is clearly ahead having been in the program for a year. But Rivera was a multi-sport star in high school and captain of the PR VT. She does not have to be Yanz or Carpenter if Weiskircher is first up. If Rivera has heart, fight, and leverages all of her talent she has a shot. And that's even having to travel further than Weiskircher. I'm sure she won't stop fighting or learning. Regardless, the battle will be good for both of them, and ultimately the team. If it's Weiskircher, as a PSU fan for the past 17 years, I'll be pulling for her all the way. May the best young talented woman carry the weight of success and potential stardom well! I'll be excited to see.
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Post by bkedane on Aug 23, 2015 15:13:13 GMT -5
And running a 5-1 will get them closer to that imo. I said they would win two year ago after the MSU loss at home and was fortunate to have guessed right. To be being THE favorite to win I will need a closer look see this group in action. So I guess if you are looking for a prediction. If they run a 5-1 I think they have a better chance at winning the B1G and NC. But heck they MIGHT do both with a 6-2. Agree on running the 5-1. The only advantage a 6-2 poses would be that it allows Penn State to utilize all of their top hitters so they don't have top 15 recruits riding the pine. Penn State has been the premier program the last decade running a 5-1 the entire time, with both short and tall setters. In the last 20ish years, the only championship teams that have run 6-2s are Stanford in 1994 when they had 2 All-American setters who played in all 6 rotations, and 2002 USC who had 2 strong setters who had similar setting styles. I haven't seen much of Rivera, but I cannot imagine that she has a similar setting style to Weiskircher. The last couple of times Penn State had a real battle for the starting setter role was in 2006 and 2011. In 2006, it was 2 elite prospects in Glass and Yanz duking it out. Rose chose Glass and she went on to lead Penn State to three titles. Yanz ultimately ended up transferring. In 2011 it was Carp who just led PSU to a title, and Hancock who was a freshman. Hancock won and eventually led PSU to three Final Fours and 2 titles. Carp ended up playing a minimal role her last two years. With Weiskircher and Rivera, I think we'll see the same in that Russ will pick one, and the other will essentially be a non impact player for PSU volleyball over the next three years. It may sound harsh, but that's how Russ has found so much success this decade. Was PSU running a 5-1 in the past because of a firm commitment to the 5-1 or because of a decision that it best fit the personnel on those teams? I bet it's the latter. I don't know how it will end up this year but I doubt that the choices from previous years will play a role in the decision.
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Post by MTC on Aug 24, 2015 9:45:25 GMT -5
It looks like the games have started already and the match is 4 days away. I wonder what the over - under will be on the match?
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Post by aps987 on Aug 24, 2015 11:35:19 GMT -5
Weiskircher was the second highest rated setter in her class behind (Tashima, I believe. Top 15). She is physical, has the hands, and has a year under Salima. I would not bet against her starting this season.
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Post by alt on Aug 24, 2015 11:50:21 GMT -5
Who won the Andi Collins award last year? and where was Minnarick rated.
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Post by vbkid111 on Aug 24, 2015 13:25:16 GMT -5
Weiskircher was the second highest rated setter in her class behind (Tashima, I believe. Top 15). She is physical, has the hands, and has a year under Salima. I would not bet against her starting this season. I might take that bet.
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Post by MTC on Aug 24, 2015 15:31:09 GMT -5
Who won the Andi Collins award last year? and where was Minnarick rated. Do you realize that Penn State has NEVER had a Andi Collins Award winner? It seems they have done pretty well anyway.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 24, 2015 15:40:21 GMT -5
Who won the Andi Collins award last year? and where was Minnarick rated. Do you realize that Penn State has NEVER had a Andi Collins Award winner? It seems they have done pretty well anyway. You're funny
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 24, 2015 15:41:35 GMT -5
Weiskircher was the second highest rated setter in her class behind (Tashima, I believe. Top 15). She is physical, has the hands, and has a year under Salima. I would not bet against her starting this season. How much you want to bet/lose?
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Post by claw on Aug 24, 2015 15:55:15 GMT -5
Weiskircher was the second highest rated setter in her class behind (Tashima, I believe. Top 15). She is physical, has the hands, and has a year under Salima. I would not bet against her starting this season. How much you want to bet/lose?
Who wins the bet if both setters are starters?
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Post by lionsfan on Aug 24, 2015 16:06:26 GMT -5
Weiskircher was the second highest rated setter in her class behind (Tashima, I believe. Top 15). She is physical, has the hands, and has a year under Salima. I would not bet against her starting this season. How much you want to bet/lose? Oooh, intel Interesting.
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Post by Disc808 on Aug 24, 2015 16:59:20 GMT -5
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