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Post by volleyballjim on Dec 28, 2014 13:38:37 GMT -5
Beach "language" while playing perplexes me. Mine-Mine-Mine, versus "I go", IN vs. IN-IN-IN, "send it" vs. "take it over"...Monsyllabic words would seem to be the most efficient calls, but are there any calls that players in your group do that bug you on the court? What IS the best way to call serve receive? To me, on broken plays, anything but "Send it" might or might not work whereas "send it" seems to be THE way to describe "I'm out of the play", get it over. I hear "yes" and always wonder, IS THERE ANY PLAY where the call YES gives you information?
Anway, winter is here, posts at an all time low, BUT I do wonder about all this "court talk" . . .
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Post by tinman2 on Dec 28, 2014 23:49:36 GMT -5
OUT!
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Post by volleyballjim on Dec 29, 2014 1:56:19 GMT -5
OK t.m., of close out calls are we getting calls on any more than 20% of them? Too many scared players afraid to call "OUT" when its close...If you don't call it regularly, a crucial time with velocity is a bad time to "begin" . . .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 15:05:55 GMT -5
"scared" players? really?
you give the context of "close" out calls, and then claim that players not calling the ball out are "scared"?
i coach my young players to call it "out"/not play it only if they're sure it's out. i also coach them to play it if it's too close to call -- i.e., if they're not sure. but i never accuse them of being "scared" if they don't call it.
besides, you're talking about doubles here (i assume). isn't the one playing the ball ultimately responsible for the decision whether or not to let it land? isn't that player -- the one much closer to the ball -- usually in a better position to determine in/out?
is it really better to blame one's partner for one's own mistake -- and then compound it by disparaging their courage?
perhaps it's better to just take personal responsibility for the mistake and move on.
unless, of course, you're actively trying to end the playing relationship...
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Post by volleyballjim on Dec 29, 2014 22:51:17 GMT -5
I find WAY too many players not making calls on In/Out. WAY too many for there not being some objective reason. My hypothesis: Calling is a skill, both mental and emotional. You either develop it or not. Make lots of calls and you get pretty good at it, do so sporadically and well, not so good. 1/2 the US Population is shy and that MUST be some part of the formula. If you have trouble dealing with people would you REALLY graviate to calling In/Out agressively, knowing how bad you can look with miscalls + you have to "speak up"? If you call a lot, you make, obviously, a LOT more errors than if you call very few, and only obvious ones. Scared, yes, socially "scared" . . .
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Post by volleyballjim on Dec 29, 2014 23:15:30 GMT -5
P.S. I've often served a team of "two of these" (quieter, shyer, little affinity for calling) down the middle and let me tell you, no one even calls it, ball drops, play over (not that a middle serve doesn't stand on its own, but with this added "social" index, its even more effective)...
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Post by kro2488 on Dec 30, 2014 18:20:20 GMT -5
P.S. I've often served a team of "two of these" (quieter, shyer, little affinity for calling) down the middle and let me tell you, no one even calls it, ball drops, play over (not that a middle serve doesn't stand on its own, but with this added "social" index, its even more effective)... Cross court player calls the ball on middle serves (mine or yours, me me me, you you you etc...)unless one of you is much stronger at hitting then that player should come and take it most of the time, if no one calls it you want to see two people move toward it instead of it just falling, because it means they want the ball and are being aggressive. Sometimes I wont call a ball in or out if i cant tell from my perspective then i let the player or partner closer to it decide. |
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