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Post by pwvb on Jan 13, 2015 16:24:53 GMT -5
They updated it, must have realized the faux pas and moved everyone down one behind them.
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Post by pwvb on Jan 13, 2015 16:36:02 GMT -5
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Post by dgo on Jan 13, 2015 16:40:15 GMT -5
Here is my guess for the 18's: 1- Baha 2 - HPSTL Royal 3 - Coastal Navy 4 - SPVB Mizuno 5 - Ultimate Gold 6 - LivBC National 7 - SPVB Runbird 8 - Vortex Fire 9 - Kiva Red 10 - Vanguard Gold I wasn't too far off for the 18's. I don't know anything about Pacmen and I didn't think that MVC would have played enough matches with their teams set to be in the top 10 (I know that they are a good team) but there is nothing here that shocks me. 1- Baha 2 - HPSTL Royal 3 - Coastal Navy 4 - Pacmen 5 - SPVB Mizuno 6 - MVC Jake 7 - Ultimate Gold 8 - Vortex Fire 9 - SPVB Runbird 10 - LivBC National As I mentioned above, I'm new to boys qualifiers. I've only seen a handful of the teams in this field play. If Vanguard is the 21st best team in this tournament...wow. I'm realistic enough to know that it's going to be a long weekend for my son's team, but I didn't realize it's going to be that long.
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Post by GWVBall96 on Jan 13, 2015 17:50:32 GMT -5
It seems strange that adversity and SPVB are ranked so highly in the 16s division
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Post by HawaiiVB0630 on Jan 13, 2015 19:35:21 GMT -5
Bro, chill out. Your team got the 4 seed and you already have a bid. You're just playing for a good seed at nationals now.
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Post by GWVBall96 on Jan 13, 2015 19:53:21 GMT -5
Bro, chill out. Your team got the 4 seed and you already have a bid. You're just playing for a good seed at nationals now. I know I'm just saying it seems odd as adversity did not do very well at palos and SPVB did not do very well at scva losing to LIVBC who is seeded lower than them
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Post by HawaiiVB0630 on Jan 13, 2015 20:03:00 GMT -5
Yeah USAV messes up some of the rankings...I feel you.
Plaisted broke his ankle so you guys have one less team to worry about. Good luck against Baja and Coqui. lol
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Post by vbsetter2012 on Jan 13, 2015 23:56:14 GMT -5
I am a little curious as to how the you guys arrived at your top 10 seeding for this coming weekend? I really don't get the Puerto Rican seed at number two or four. Is that because they are from Puerto Rico? And we all know that those Puerto Rican teams are "THE BEST VOLLEYBALL PLAYERS ON EARTH"! Obviously no one consulted the BID Manual for guidance. This after all is a USAV BID tournament and is subject to the seeding requirements of that manual. Performance at the most recent BID tournament, plus the make of the team (players from national team), team performance at Nationals previous season and several others. The seedings will be interesting, but I just don't think you are going to get the number of high seeds for all of the local teams since this will be their first BID tournament and the break up of the WA Lightning Club caused the shuffle of players to different clubs. Now that the schedule is up on AES, so are the rosters. PREVA looks to be an all-star team of San Juan and Borinquen Coqui. My guess is that they will be a very strong #2 seed.
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Post by sportsrfun on Jan 14, 2015 0:13:26 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how MVC 18s play considering that the team was finalized not to long ago. They have a lot of depth that's for sure
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 0:37:35 GMT -5
It seems strange that adversity and SPVB are ranked so highly in the 16s division Oh Cameron. Didn't Mike teach you to focus on what you can control. Or did he leave SPRI too early.
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Post by GWVBall96 on Jan 14, 2015 0:59:57 GMT -5
It seems strange that adversity and SPVB are ranked so highly in the 16s division Oh Cameron. Didn't Mike teach you to focus on what you can control. Or did he leave SPRI too early. Umm wtf who are you
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Post by cadf on Jan 14, 2015 7:26:12 GMT -5
Its funny to see the caliber of teams here in this chicago qualifier. For example in the 15's division HPSTL is seeded #1, but they went 3-4 in the SCVA qualifier and did not even get a bid. This is supposed to be the 2nd biggest qualifier in the US, but it does not compare at all to the So Cal qualifier. Of course SCVA is better, but don't cherry pick an example from the least important age division to try and make that point. No body cares about 15's. Tell me how inferior the 17's and 18's fields are.
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Post by vball1818 on Jan 14, 2015 7:52:42 GMT -5
Its funny to see the caliber of teams here in this chicago qualifier. For example in the 15's division HPSTL is seeded #1, but they went 3-4 in the SCVA qualifier and did not even get a bid. This is supposed to be the 2nd biggest qualifier in the US, but it does not compare at all to the So Cal qualifier. This is a perfect example of California arrogance. The rest of the country should just lay down and die bc they can't possibly play volleyball like Cali boys.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 9:35:05 GMT -5
I have absolutely nothing but the utmost respect for the SC programs. I think that the California teams are really good. Lord knows they get the better coaching! BUT, if you want to prove world dominance you can't just play in your own back yard. Even the NCAA, such as they are, told Pepperdine and the rest of the MPSF if you want to make the tourney you have stop playing with yourself and go unto the world. The top 10 teams from Nationals 2014; 17 Open 6 were NOT from Southern California, 18 Open; Seven, 16 Open; five. Whether you choose to believe it or not, the world of Men's Volleyball is no longer strictly a California Dance. Sooooooooooo, when the California teams are willing to travel to the Chicago's of USAV club volleyball and DOMINATE as you think they will, and I mean take the top ten positions at every level at every qualifier, then you can claim superiority. Until then ........... Be prepared for a 10.0 on the Richter Scale cause it's coming. Just ask Brazil's soccor team.......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 10:50:05 GMT -5
I have absolutely nothing but the utmost respect for the SC programs. I think that the California teams are really good. Lord knows they get the better coaching! BUT, if you want to prove world dominance you can't just play in your own back yard. Even the NCAA, such as they are, told Pepperdine and the rest of the MPSF if you want to make the tourney you have stop playing with yourself and go unto the world. The top 10 teams from Nationals 2014; 17 Open 6 were NOT from Southern California, 18 Open; Seven, 16 Open; five. Whether you choose to believe it or not, the world of Men's Volleyball is no longer strictly a California Dance. Sooooooooooo, when the California teams are willing to travel to the Chicago's of USAV club volleyball and DOMINATE as you think they will, and I mean take the top ten positions at every level at every qualifier, then you can claim superiority. Until then ........... Be prepared for a 10.0 on the Richter Scale cause it's coming. Just ask Brazil's soccor team....... Why should we require parents to spend $1,000.00 extra per year when those teams can play the best competition in the country every week staying in the warm, sunny Southern California weather. I'm a Midwestern guy, but there is no way if I were a top Southern California (or Northern California) parent that I would be thrilled to spend that much money if my son's team already had a bid to Nationals. That's a completely apples to oranges comparison. The student-athletes are not paying for their trips out of their own pockets in the NCAA. And teams who earn an autobid (winning their conference tournament - the equivalent of earning a bid at a National qualifier) do not have their bid taken away if their out of conference wasn't strong enough.
And nobody is saying California teams occupy every top spot in every division. But how many teams outside of California win Nationals from, say, ages 16 and up (14 and 15 sometimes get dominated by Puerto Rican and Hawaiian teams)? Off the top of my head, in recent years the only teams that have won Nationals from outside of CA that I can think of are West Allis Lightning 16 in 2010, West Allis Lightning 18 in 2012, and St. Louis High Performance 18 in 2007. I'm sure there are others, but that's just off the top of my head.
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