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Post by foreignball on Aug 31, 2004 19:16:11 GMT -5
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Post by BeiBei on Aug 31, 2004 19:59:01 GMT -5
He is not young anymore and all the screaming and shouting are bad for his body. Not to mention, his relationship with the players is not that great. He is the exact opposite of the Chinese coach who always smile. Give credit to Karpol for this olympics. The team really overachieved by winning a silver although some of the players already had silver medals from previous olympics particularly Tourina and Artamanova who now have 3 silver medals. This team was ranked sixth before the olympics, so finishing second is not that bad.
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Post by Murina on Aug 31, 2004 23:26:00 GMT -5
This has been the plan for the last 4 years. Ogienko is supposed to take over as the coach of Uralochka. The article would seem to indicate that the national team system in Russia may be overhauled.
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Post by sIsam on Sept 1, 2004 0:26:42 GMT -5
This has been the plan for the last 4 years. Ogienko is supposed to take over as the coach of Uralochka. I feel VERY sorry for the Russian players in the hands of Ogienko. I hear she's a lot tougher than Karpol is both on and off the court. Last year there was talk of possibly Kirillova getting involved with the program as coach though I do not see this likely (would love for it to happen though)
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Post by Murina on Sept 1, 2004 0:32:39 GMT -5
I feel VERY sorry for the Russian players in the hands of Ogienko. I hear she's a lot tougher than Karpol is both on and off the court. Last year there was talk of possibly Kirillova getting involved with the program as coach though I do not see this likely (would love for it to happen though) Really? That's interesting! In his book Karpol writes that before she left, Kirillova was his choice to succeed him. When Kirillova left for Croatia, Ogienko was next in line...
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Post by sIsam on Sept 1, 2004 1:07:04 GMT -5
Really? That's interesting! In his book Karpol writes that before she left, Kirillova was his choice to succeed him. When Kirillova left for Croatia, Ogienko was next in line... I think she'd be better than Ogienko - at least her teams would be more fun to watch and if she can train a setter half as good as she is then we got ourselves a team. However, I do not believe Kirillova has been involved with any aspect of Russian VB recently - though she was supposed to be coaching in Croatia this year. Ogienko has been with Karpol forever and is likely to take over.
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Post by spikethis on Sept 1, 2004 1:29:58 GMT -5
I think Ogienko will take over. She has been working with him the longest. People who say she is very tough or hardass are probably wrong. Maybe on certain level but she was more of a stoic, quiet leader throughout her playing. I really cannot see her get in someone's elses face. A friend of mine who used to play with her told me she used to sing right before serve receiving so you know she is not all that uptight. Kirillova is a whole different person. She will get upset- not really scream at you or something. She will give you a look that says it all. She is tough as nails and I can see her being really tough as a coach. However, she has been living in Croatia for quite some time and I doubt she would be willing to relocate. I think some of her friends from Russia (Chebukina) have permanently moved to Croatia so she has a well developed support system. But you never know.
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Post by sIsam on Sept 1, 2004 11:31:06 GMT -5
Well guys and gals, it sounds like Mr Karpol will still stay with the NT. A friend in Russia says that Karpol wants to stay with the NT. He will definitely be head Coach for the Grand Prix European play off (3rd week of September). What the rest of the year and next brings, we don't know...
However he's passing the reins of Uralochka to Ogienko for next season. Jerry goes to a team in Switzerland (Volero in Zurich) they have ties with like last year.
My friend also says we might see some Cubans in Uralochka next year which would certainly be interesting.
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Post by foreignball on Sept 1, 2004 12:01:21 GMT -5
My friend also says we might see some Cubans in Uralochka next year which would certainly be interesting. May be one of Ekaterinburg’s diamond kings decided to spend some money for vball? It’s quite a fashion now among Russian millionaires to get involved in sports business. After they purchased some big soccer clubs all over the Europe (UK’s Chelsea tops the list) I wouldn’t be surprised if vball is also subject of their attention.
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Post by sIsam on Sept 1, 2004 12:05:16 GMT -5
May be one of Ekaterinburg’s diamond kings decided to spend some money for vball? It’s quite a fashion now among Russian millionaires to get involved in sports business. After they purchased some big soccer clubs all over the Europe (UK’s Chelsea tops the list) I wouldn’t be surprised if vball is also subject of their attention. It looks like they have started. They got some players from Turkey offering them twice their contract amounts. On a VB program on TV, it was said that we will be seeing more foreign players in russia this coming season and onwards... Also I'm hearing men's basketball has a similar problem. Russian teams offering astronomical contracts to players of other teams in Europe.
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