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Post by #skoskers on Jan 30, 2015 12:10:01 GMT -5
A "real beach volleyball" program? So, you're implying that landlocked teams can't promote and participate in sand? It's odd to hear you make a geographically discriminating comment when Hawaii's location deters the top mainland recruits from choosing Hawaii as a destination to spend four years of their lives. TBH, and I’ve said this before, Hawaii is great as a vacation destination, because the resort areas on the beaches are lovely, but inland Hawaii reminds me of Caracas or Lima. o.0 I also remember this type of sentiment last decade when there were a helluva lot more West Coast and Hawaii posters on VTalk claiming that the volleyball east of the Rockies was a joke. I ask you to look where we are now: people claim there’s an East Coast bias, and it seems most of the top recruits are choosing the schools east of Nebraska and Texas these days. Sure, Stanford and USC get their share of top recruits, but the trend of successful volleyball has seemingly swung toward the Midwest and East Coast. None of this really matters, though, because like I mentioned above, Nebraska seems to use the sand season as a means to train and condition their indoor skills and develop chemistry and other intangibles, because there’s not even an official NCAA sand championship yet. Also, if you remember correctly, Jordan Larson and Sarah Pavan won a sand championship together, taking down schools with supposed "real beach volleyball programs," so swish that around in your mouth. ;-) LOl. My comments had nothing to do with Nebraska's location, that much is obvious. It's the fact that they don't have a single beach/sand-only player on their roster. Instead of refuting my comments, you actually validated them so thanks, dumbass. Nice dig at Hawai'i, btw. It doesn't matter to me. I flew over Nebraska once, I didn't miss anything. As far as your implication that Nebraska is not taking its sand program seriously because it isn't a championship sport, I don't see their lack of success changing next year when beach/sand volleyball is championship sport; they're not going to out recruit Hawai'i or other beach volleyball programs. Last year, Nebraska didn't win a single match in Hawai'i, I suspect it will be the much same again this year. As an aside, for all your boasting about Nebraska Volleyball, you seem to forget that Hawai'i has been to a final four more recently than Nebraska. Put that fact into your pipe and smoke it. Muh bad if I misinterpreted your post as one of your normal cracks on Nebraska. I apologize on that level. I’ll admit that Nebraska doesn’t regard the sand season as an opportunity to bring home a nonexistent NCAA title. Speaking of NCAA titles, I’m pretty sure Nebraska has been in a title match more recently than Hawaii. In fact, wasn’t Hawaii’s last championship in the 80s? Nice try.
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Post by #skoskers on Jan 30, 2015 12:19:19 GMT -5
It doesn't matter if Holman plays sand, she won't make the Nebraska sand team any better than it already is. They've got a pedestrian sand team with or without Holman. It sucks, because some of the programs that I admire have some of the lamest fans. You and Ay make it difficult to support the Wahine and Huskies when you both constantly assault the Huskers for no apparent reason. Both Shoji and Cook are friends who greatly respect each other and each other's programs. It’s people like you and me that don’t see eye to eye, but it doesn’t really matter much, because I don’t need the Wahine or Huskies to be really good or bad for me to be proud of my team.
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Post by Kamali'i-7 on Jan 30, 2015 12:19:21 GMT -5
A "real beach volleyball" program? So, you're implying that landlocked teams can't promote and participate in sand? It's odd to hear you make a geographically discriminating comment when Hawaii's location deters the top mainland recruits from choosing Hawaii as a destination to spend four years of their lives. TBH, and I’ve said this before, Hawaii is great as a vacation destination, because the resort areas on the beaches are lovely, but inland Hawaii reminds me of Caracas or Lima. o.0 I also remember this type of sentiment last decade when there were a helluva lot more West Coast and Hawaii posters on VTalk claiming that the volleyball east of the Rockies was a joke. I ask you to look where we are now: people claim there’s an East Coast bias, and it seems most of the top recruits are choosing the schools east of Nebraska and Texas these days. Sure, Stanford and USC get their share of top recruits, but the trend of successful volleyball has seemingly swung toward the Midwest and East Coast. None of this really matters, though, because like I mentioned above, Nebraska seems to use the sand season as a means to train and condition their indoor skills and develop chemistry and other intangibles, because there’s not even an official NCAA sand championship yet. Also, if you remember correctly, Jordan Larson and Sarah Pavan won a sand championship together, taking down schools with supposed "real beach volleyball programs," so swish that around in your mouth. ;-) LOl. My comments had nothing to do with Nebraska's location, that much is obvious. It's the fact that they don't have a single beach/sand-only player on their roster. Instead of refuting my comments, you actually validated them so thanks, dumbass. Nice dig at Hawai'i, btw. It doesn't matter to me. I flew over Nebraska once, I didn't miss anything. As far as your implication that Nebraska is not taking its sand program seriously because it isn't a championship sport, I don't see their lack of success changing next year when beach/sand volleyball is championship sport; they're not going to out recruit Hawai'i or other beach volleyball programs. Last year, Nebraska didn't win a single match in Hawai'i, I suspect it will be the much same again this year. As an aside, for all your boasting about Nebraska Volleyball, you seem to forget that Hawai'i has been to a final four more recently than Nebraska. Put that fact into your pipe and smoke it. I COULD rip too, but I won't. Kanaks seems to have a handle on things; tearing down people with words/slurs/expletives the honoulu-way.
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Post by #skoskers on Jan 30, 2015 12:26:00 GMT -5
"Kanaks"? UrbanDictionary.com says a Kanak is basically a fat, lethargic woman.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 30, 2015 12:35:27 GMT -5
Respectfully, I think you are failing to recognize that Nebraska has never even recruited a beach player, and while I am sure the kids always want to win, nothing about their goals as a sand program, suggest they are trying to be a competitive program. They are playing with indoor players with little or no beach experience as a means to get extra training, help players become more well rounded indoor players. They play only the minimum amount of dates and dont even attempt to qualify for championships. Given all of that, wouldnt it stand to reason they can't compete with beach programs, who are recruiting beach players, are trying to win championships? Respectfully? just say what you have to say and leave out that "respectfully" nonsense because you're starting to sound like the new MTC. That said, I understand what you're saying- that's my point. I apologize for trying to be respectful. In the future, I will make sure to insult your state, program, and tell you what you should include or leave out in your posts. My bad.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Jan 30, 2015 13:43:12 GMT -5
It doesn't matter if Holman plays sand, she won't make the Nebraska sand team any better than it already is. They've got a pedestrian sand team with or without Holman. It sucks, because some of the programs that I admire have some of the lamest fans. You and Ay make it difficult to support the Wahine and Huskies when you both constantly assault the Huskers for no apparent reason. Both Shoji and Cook are friends who greatly respect each other and each other's programs. It’s people like you and me that don’t see eye to eye, but it doesn’t really matter much, because I don’t need the Wahine or Huskies to be really good or bad for me to be proud of my team. Ay and I make it difficult for you to support Washington and Hawai'i? Perhaps you're not trying hard enough to like these 2 programs. Ay can speak for himself but in the 12 years and 3 months that I have been a member of Volleytalk, I have never claimed to be a representative of the Wahine program. My comments are my own as a Wahine fan. If you are unable to "support Hawai'i" because of me, that is your problem, not mine.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Jan 30, 2015 14:19:01 GMT -5
Respectfully? just say what you have to say and leave out that "respectfully" nonsense because you're starting to sound like the new MTC. That said, I understand what you're saying- that's my point. I apologize for trying to be respectful. In the future, I will make sure to insult your state, program, and tell you what you should include or leave out in your posts. My bad. This is Volleytalk, respect is for suckers.
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Post by vbprisoner on Jan 30, 2015 14:29:23 GMT -5
Programs that were past powers in indoor women's volleyball will now look to recapture glory by focusing on sand because they do not have the overall resources or are not national to compete relevantly with the PAC, B1G, and a couple up and coming conferences in indoor anymore.
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Post by #skoskers on Jan 30, 2015 15:38:54 GMT -5
It sucks, because some of the programs that I admire have some of the lamest fans. You and Ay make it difficult to support the Wahine and Huskies when you both constantly assault the Huskers for no apparent reason. Both Shoji and Cook are friends who greatly respect each other and each other's programs. It’s people like you and me that don’t see eye to eye, but it doesn’t really matter much, because I don’t need the Wahine or Huskies to be really good or bad for me to be proud of my team. Ay and I make it difficult for you to support Washington and Hawai'i? Perhaps you're not trying hard enough to like these 2 programs. Ay can speak for himself but in the 12 years and 3 months that I have been a member of Volleytalk, I have never claimed to be a representative of the Wahine program. My comments are my own as a Wahine fan. If you are unable to "support Hawai'i" because of me, that is your problem, not mine. LOL Was this before or after you attempted to imply Hawaii is more successful than Nebraska for their final four berth in 2009? Honestly, it was nice seeing the Huskies lose to the Huskers this season, not only because it meant my team came out on top and got to advance, but I got some satisfaction knowing that Ay would be off in a dark, padded room licking his wounds. Unfortunately, the loss also impacted Huskies fans like TomC and MikeG, two people I enjoy following on here that have made me a fan of Washington volleyball by association over the past couple of years. As long as our teams aren't playing each other, I'll always root for their program to succeed because they're good people. I'd also say the same for Wahinefan and Wolfgang, two great ambassadors for Hawaii volleyball. I enjoy reading their insights and opinions, because one can tell that their constructive observations come from a good place. When it comes to you, however, I regard you just as another Ay: a troll. This reply isn't just for you, but for those on here that petulantly attack and target other programs without reason. I'm not sure when your last objective post was made, because I've learned that your posts are mere rubbish so I skip right over them. You boast about being a member on here for 12.25 years, but I think you're the only one who's proud of that achievement. LOL
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Jan 30, 2015 16:38:42 GMT -5
Ay and I make it difficult for you to support Washington and Hawai'i? Perhaps you're not trying hard enough to like these 2 programs. Ay can speak for himself but in the 12 years and 3 months that I have been a member of Volleytalk, I have never claimed to be a representative of the Wahine program. My comments are my own as a Wahine fan. If you are unable to "support Hawai'i" because of me, that is your problem, not mine. LOL Was this before or after you attempted to imply Hawaii is more successful than Nebraska for their final four berth in 2009? Honestly, it was nice seeing the Huskies lose to the Huskers this season, not only because it meant my team came out on top and got to advance, but I got some satisfaction knowing that Ay would be off in a dark, padded room licking his wounds. Unfortunately, the loss also impacted Huskies fans like TomC and MikeG, two people I enjoy following on here that have made me a fan of Washington volleyball by association over the past couple of years. As long as our teams aren't playing each other, I'll always root for their program to succeed because they're good people. I'd also say the same for Wahinefan and Wolfgang, two great ambassadors for Hawaii volleyball. I enjoy reading their insights and opinions, because one can tell that their constructive observations come from a good place. When it comes to you, however, I regard you just as another Ay: a troll. This reply isn't just for you, but for those on here that petulantly attack and target other programs without reason. I'm not sure when your last objective post was made, because I've learned that your posts are mere rubbish so I skip right over them. You boast about being a member on here for 12.25 years, but I think you're the only one who's proud of that achievement. LOL I wasn't boasting, I was pointing out that I have never claimed to represent the Wahine program in all of the time I have been a member of VT so for you to "have trouble supporting Hawai'i" because of the things that I have posted on my own (as a fan) is complete poppycock. In your lame attempt to paint yourself as an objective fan, you fail to mention the BS Hyena and Lion messages you sent me unsolicited, attacking the very program that you claim you "want to support." In addition, the fact that you can find perverse pleasure in your dumb fantasy (pertaining to ay2013) is further testament to your assclownery. For the record, I couldn't care less about how you regard me or other members of VT. Valentine's Day is coming up, you should save your sentiments for then, package them with a rose and a box of chocolates and send them on their merry way to those sweethearts you hold in high regard. Hawai'i has been to the final four more recently than Nebraska, that is a fact. Take that how you want to, I don't care. You sure have a lot to say to someone whose posts you skip right over, lol.
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Post by vbprisoner on Jan 30, 2015 16:48:58 GMT -5
LOL Was this before or after you attempted to imply Hawaii is more successful than Nebraska for their final four berth in 2009? Honestly, it was nice seeing the Huskies lose to the Huskers this season, not only because it meant my team came out on top and got to advance, but I got some satisfaction knowing that Ay would be off in a dark, padded room licking his wounds. Unfortunately, the loss also impacted Huskies fans like TomC and MikeG, two people I enjoy following on here that have made me a fan of Washington volleyball by association over the past couple of years. As long as our teams aren't playing each other, I'll always root for their program to succeed because they're good people. I'd also say the same for Wahinefan and Wolfgang, two great ambassadors for Hawaii volleyball. I enjoy reading their insights and opinions, because one can tell that their constructive observations come from a good place. When it comes to you, however, I regard you just as another Ay: a troll. This reply isn't just for you, but for those on here that petulantly attack and target other programs without reason. I'm not sure when your last objective post was made, because I've learned that your posts are mere rubbish so I skip right over them. You boast about being a member on here for 12.25 years, but I think you're the only one who's proud of that achievement. LOL I wasn't boasting, I was pointing out that I have never claimed to represent the Wahine program in all of the time I have been a member of VT so for you to "have trouble supporting Hawai'i" because of the things that I have posted on my own (as a fan) is complete poppycock. In your lame attempt to paint yourself as an objective fan, you fail to mention the bs Hyena and Lion messages you sent me unsolicited, attacking the very program you claim that you "want to support." The fact that you can find perverse pleasure in your dumb fantasy (pertaining to ay2013) is further testament to your assclownery. For the record, I couldn't care less about how you regard me or other members of VT- Valentine's Day is coming up, you should save your sentiment for then, package them with a rose and a box of chocolates, and send them on their way to those you hold in high regard. Hawai'i has been to the final four more recently than Nebraska, that is a fact. Take that how you want to, I don't care. You sure have a lot to say to someone whose posts you skip right over, lol. The word for the day is - Assclownery!
I have never heard that used until reading your post and can't wait to use it......LMAO!
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Post by FreeBall on Jan 30, 2015 17:43:31 GMT -5
It doesn't matter if Holman plays sand, she won't make the Nebraska sand team any better than it already is. They've got a pedestrian sand team with or without Holman. It sucks, because some of the programs that I admire have some of the lamest fans. You and Ay make it difficult to support the Wahine and Huskies when you both constantly assault the Huskers for no apparent reason. Both Shoji and Cook are friends who greatly respect each other and each other's programs. It’s people like you and me that don’t see eye to eye, but it doesn’t really matter much, because I don’t need the Wahine or Huskies to be really good or bad for me to be proud of my team. BIK is a bit of an acquired taste. Open your mind, give it some time, and you may have a chance to appreciate his contributions to VT.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 30, 2015 19:49:54 GMT -5
"Kanaks"? UrbanDictionary.com says a Kanak is basically a fat, lethargic woman. Was there a photo of my mother-in-law attached to it?
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Post by volleyguy on Jan 30, 2015 20:07:06 GMT -5
"Kanaks"? UrbanDictionary.com says a Kanak is basically a fat, lethargic woman. Was there a photo of my mother-in-law attached to it? That's cold, bro, but funny. You may have to pay for that one though.
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Post by redincolorado on Jan 31, 2015 15:04:47 GMT -5
No matter how one tries and spin this, that LSU coach comes across as a double standard hypocrite
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