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Post by MTC on Feb 3, 2015 15:40:14 GMT -5
Why don't the Nebraska fans quit their bitching and face the facts; Holman was transferring with restrictions and Nebraska accepted her knowing the situation.
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 3, 2015 15:50:56 GMT -5
My apologies. Kant is a tough read, and way over the pay-grade of this board (even those who are trying so, so hard).
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 3, 2015 15:58:39 GMT -5
Why don't the Nebraska fans quit their bitching and face the facts; Holman was transferring with restrictions and Nebraska accepted her knowing the situation. YDKWYATA
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 3, 2015 16:01:28 GMT -5
My apologies. Kant is a tough read, and way over the pay-grade of this board (even those who are trying so, so hard). I'm sure you can find another site where you will find peers with your pay-grade. Clearly when discussing vb transfers we should all be better versed in Kant.
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 3, 2015 16:09:47 GMT -5
My apologies. Kant is a tough read, and way over the pay-grade of this board (even those who are trying so, so hard). I'm sure you can find another site where you will find peers with your pay-grade. Clearly when discussing vb transfers we should all be better versed in Kant. You were the one who raised the issue of situational ethics in the first place. Don't blame me for your reading habits.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 3, 2015 16:17:37 GMT -5
I'm sure you can find another site where you will find peers with your pay-grade. Clearly when discussing vb transfers we should all be better versed in Kant. You were the one who raised the issue of situational ethics in the first place. Don't blame me for your reading habits. How about I if I PM you just prior to posting so you can more immediately oppose anything I say, would that be helpful? Also who first brought up the issue of ethics?
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Post by #skoskers on Feb 3, 2015 16:29:42 GMT -5
I'm sure you can find another site where you will find peers with your pay-grade. Clearly when discussing vb transfers we should all be better versed in Kant. You were the one who raised the issue of situational ethics in the first place. Don't blame me for your reading habits. Volleyguy, NYLINE brought up situational ethics on page one, not Dorothy. Don't blame Dot for your reading habits.
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 3, 2015 16:31:10 GMT -5
You were the one who raised the issue of situational ethics in the first place. Don't blame me for your reading habits. How about I if I PM you just prior to posting so you can more immediately oppose anything I say, would that be helpful? Also who first brought up the issue of ethics? I reviewed the thread and see that you weren't the author of that post. I apologize for my mistaken attribution.
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Post by vbprisoner on Feb 3, 2015 16:41:11 GMT -5
I lost interest once you all brought in Mill and Kant.
This is not that complicated, and ethics has not been breached on the part of LSU. It might make them look bad, but that is for future recruits to decide because, we here in the VT gallery can bitch all we want and have no real influence on the matter.
Holman wanted to transfer because she wanted more competition and play with players of her level to achieve certain goals. LSU did not give her release but she still elected to go (good for her to want to be happy). With her departure it opened up a spot at LSU (without her departure the middle transferring in would not be going to LSU) and someone who received her release was brought in to replace Holman.
Nothing unethical (looks bad from a fan's view), but we also don't know all the facts on why a release was not granted so until someone that knows the facts comes forward and explains this is all bad PR for LSU in volleyball world, and speculation on VT.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 3, 2015 17:16:58 GMT -5
How about I if I PM you just prior to posting so you can more immediately oppose anything I say, would that be helpful? Also who first brought up the issue of ethics? I reviewed the thread and see that you weren't the author of that post. I apologize for my mistaken attribution. I don't have a problem with you making a mistake, its more your commitment to be adversarial or snarky on things we are most probably in a agreement on.
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Post by #skoskers on Feb 3, 2015 17:27:54 GMT -5
I don't think we are on very different sides of this. Can hypocrisy (saying one thing, doing another) be unethical? It probably would be all in how you define it. I believe hypocrisy, by definition, is always unethical. I just don't believe it's inherently hypocritical or unethical to choose from among a set of circumstances that have been presented to you, as is the case when the NCAA rules create that condition. That is a basic tenet of philosophy or normative ethics known as utilitarianism, espoused by John Stuart Mills. I think you tend to gravitate towards a more absolutist definition of ethical choices (right is right), which is often treated as the opposite spectrum and best exemplified by Emmanuelle Kant. I actually prefer Kant too, but I consider myself a pragmatic altruist. It's also Mill, not Mills, and Immanuel, not Emmanuelle. If you’re trying to be pedantic by bringing in the moral philosophers, one would expect that you would at least spell their names correctly. =)
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Post by gnu2vball on Feb 3, 2015 18:05:41 GMT -5
I can't stand this anymore. Next, someone will bring up that dyslexic guy, Hegel?
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