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Post by sweetieVBfan on May 4, 2003 18:48:06 GMT -5
You can put a young child into Little League baseball for very small fees like $100 plus a glove and shoes. Or you can put him into a club volleyball team for $1,000 to $3,500. really. none of this compares to what my parents have paid for me to dance ballet. or for my friends to ride horses. my parents paid $2500 a year for ballet, plus for pointe shoes ever 6 weeks ($55 each), tickets to every show (at least $200 per show). there is always a greener side of the fence. |
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Post by Eater on May 5, 2003 0:50:10 GMT -5
What club volleyball team costs $3500 year?
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Post by vballfan on May 5, 2003 1:12:42 GMT -5
i think everyone needs to step back and look at this issue without bias. Many younger kids from all over the country play ice hockey, and this costs as much if not more than a junior volleyball club. Also, an AAU basketball team can cost upwards of $5,000 a year, more than any volleyball club. In response to foreign players, the only reason a lot of them exist is that there are not enough players to go around. I grew up in California, and the level of play here is great, in college, in junior college and in high school. We have the best volleyball in the US here, depth wise. The thing that happens though, is that not many players want to leave California. I know of many players at the junior college level and that dont play anymore that could be contributors on division 1 teams in places other than California. The fact is, they won't leave. Look at Ryan Stuntz, he is an All American, and he didn't get recruited to any California school. James Elsea grew up in California too, and here he is excelling at a midwestern school. The fact is that many players are not willing to leave our weather and beaches for a chance at volleyball glory in the midwest.
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Post by Westerner on May 5, 2003 1:28:42 GMT -5
The fact is that many players are not willing to leave our weather and beaches for a chance at volleyball glory in the midwest. They're also not willing to leave to go and pay high out of state tuition at those programs. |
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Post by ManoaBabe on May 5, 2003 2:08:52 GMT -5
Question for all of you.. Why is it all of a sudden that being an old and foreign player became such a big deal after Lewis University won the championship match? ... Everyone seems okay with foreign players before Lewis University won the championship match. No one complains about it and why only BYU and Lewis University foreign players are being targeted? Almost every school has at least one foreign player. No one complain last year when University of Hawaii won the championship match when they had at least three foreign players and all of them were over 21. Is it hard to accept that a MIVA team won the championship match? Is everyone still mad that their prediction were wrong. Give it up people, Lewis won and be happy for them. That just proved that MIVA teams are getting
better.
For Hawaii.. Good Luck next year..Go Warriors
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Post by Line Judge on May 5, 2003 2:55:08 GMT -5
Where have you been all year? It's been one of the most debated topics of the year. Come visit more often.
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Post by Psychopotamus on May 5, 2003 10:45:26 GMT -5
You know it's a troll post when they don't even know how many foreign players Hawaii had last year.
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Post by Anonymous Beachman on May 5, 2003 10:49:34 GMT -5
Not so sure about the boy's club volleyball teams, but the girls teams can EASILY cost $3500 per year to play on!! Helloooooooo???  |
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Post by Saruman on May 5, 2003 11:22:05 GMT -5
Midwestern clubs like Premier, Adversity, Milwaukee, Great Lakes and Sports Performance (The $$Most) all travel and pay for coaches. This adds up to $1000's
Most of this money is up front.
Think about the Eastern clubs like RVC, Pace and Eden. Even thought the last two have volunteer coaches/administrators they have sent teams to California, Wisconsin, Ohio, and have East Coast Championships, prenational tourneys and Nationals. Some clubs (LI-United a couple of years ago) charge their kids $$800 - 1000 to go to Nationals along.
With Nationals usually in the West half of the US flights are often more expensive coming from the East
In actuality the sacrifice that many of these Eastern and midwestern clubs make is far greater than the california clubs and yet their are only 6-9 DI schools that offer Athletic money ....limited at that.
Point is it can easily reach $2000-$3000 for a 7 month season. For hockey it reaches $3 - $5000.
Colleges who offer Volleyball are for the most part outragiously high....even for the D III school.
PSU - $26,000
Southhampton - $28,000
Rutgers - $23,000
Juniata - $28,000
Springfield - $24,000
Loyola - $28,000 -
Ball State - $22,000
IPFW - $17,000
Mercyhurst - $17,000
other point!
We need more youth development.
We need better coaches at every level.
We need more higher level summer development - Earlier!
We to stress technique more - Practice makes permanent. Stop letting kids get away with bad habits. Emphasis more repetition and less play where very few touches happen.
good Stuff folks.
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Post by Beachy on May 5, 2003 11:48:46 GMT -5
I can only speak for some of us here in Cali. The cost of playing club ball is too much but many families make the effort anyway. However, our tournaments are all within driving distance ranging from Santa Barbara to San Diego so it helps to keep travel costs down. Gym time is what gives many clubs headaches. I hear that back in the Midwest and the East, travel to tournaments can represent the major costs of playing.
We also have the USYVL which is the equivalent of the AYSO for soccer. This is a cheap option for the younger athelete but the league only goes up to 8th grade.
Despite the cost of playing, the number of club players on the boys side has been growing every year. In So Cal, the number of clubs has increased, not decreased. Even the number of teams within a club have increased. At the Jr. Nationals, the number is teams has increased, not decreased. Players are playing for the love of the sport, not necessarily for the free ride at college. The question is would we get the more elite athelet playing if there was more money/prestige available at the collegiate level? Which of course then asks the question...do we need the more elite athelete at the collegiate level? What will make our sport grow?....it is growing!
Sorry, I'm rambling, I am trying to avoid work.
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Post by the future on May 5, 2003 17:00:55 GMT -5
Just so you all the know the Womens' game with all of its high powered youth developments and clubs is also going international. Wake up!
Temple University Women's 2002 Roster
No. Name Cl. Pos. Hgt. Hometown/Previous School
2 Solana Lee Sr. S 5-9 Santa Barbara Calif./SanMarcos
3 Stephanie Buynovsky Fr. MB 6-0 Wyomissing Hills, Pa./Wyomissing
4 Margaret Majewska Jr. MB/OH 6-1 Brampton Ontario/Mayfield
5 Liu Shu Jr. OH 5-11 TianJin, China/TianJin
7 Allison Runk So. S 5-9 Lititz, Pa./Warwick
8 Danielle Bablich Fr. OH 5-11 Toronto, Ontario/Richview Collegiate Institute
9 Raluca Olteanu Sr. OH 5-11 Baia Mare Romania/GheorgheSincai
10 Xu Yun Jr. OH 5-10 Shanghai, P.R. China/Shanghai
11 Yamit Haba Jr. OH 5-9 Kiryat Ata, Israel/Rogozin
12 Laura Leis So. MB 6-1 Effort, Pa./Pleasant Valley
13 Charity Hill Jr. MB 5-11 Salt Lake City Utah/EastHigh School
15 Liu Zhen Jai So. MB 6-2 Shanghai, P.R. China/Shanghai Sports College
Head Coach:
Robert Bertucci
Assistant Coach:
Yi Qing Wang
Graduate Extern:
Molly Alvey
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