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Post by Murina on Jan 15, 2004 4:36:03 GMT -5
How would Turkey take it?
I read that Asystel is working on getting Neslihan Demir from Gunes. They have about 10 more days to get the deal done. I guess that would spell the end for DeCarne in Novara?
Demir's site quotes an Uralochka source saying that they expect Kilic to rejoin the Russian national team soon...
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Post by sIsam on Jan 15, 2004 4:45:18 GMT -5
How would Turkey take it? I read that Asystel is working on getting Neslihan Demir from Gunes. They have about 10 more days to get the deal done. I guess that would spell the end for DeCarne in Novara? Demir's site quotes an Uralochka source saying that they expect Kilic to rejoin the Russian national team soon... Murina As far as I know, Demir can't go anywhere this season per her contract (and due to her age) with Vakif-Gunes. There are offers for her from Italy as well as from Japan. She says she will be considering them very seriously for future years. I think it'd be good both for her and for our nat'l team... In addition, as far as I know transfer here is over. Demir is her team's best player and they surely would have got someone in her place if they were going to sell her. I'd say look for her in Italy or somewhereelse quite soon though  Just not this season... With the recent lack of form of the Russian team, it would not surprise me to see Kilic playing for them again. They currently need her a lot more than Turkey does and it is a sticky situation with the Turkish NT since Hanikoglu (IMO our best overall player...) can't play if Kilic does. Will keep you up-to-date if I hear something.... |
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Post by Murina on Jan 15, 2004 5:13:57 GMT -5
Murina As far as I know, Demir can't go anywhere this season per her contract (and due to her age) with Vakif-Gunes. There are offers for her from Italy as well as from Japan. She says she will be considering them very seriously for future years. I think it'd be good both for her and for our nat'l team... In addition, as far as I know transfer here is over. Demir is her team's best player and they surely would have got someone in her place if they were going to sell her. I'd say look for her in Italy or somewhereelse quite soon though Just not this season... With the recent lack of form of the Russian team, it would not surprise me to see Kilic playing for them again. They currently need her a lot more than Turkey does and it is a sticky situation with the Turkish NT since Hanikoglu (IMO our best overall player...) can't play if Kilic does. Will keep you up-to-date if I hear something.... For enough $$$$$ just about anything can happen! Italy's transfer period goes thru the 26th I think. I'd be pretty shocked if Asystel could come up with enough money to buy her contract out. I was imagining Turkey's collective sigh of relief if the 26th passes and she's still with Gunes! I'm more interested in the idea that it means Asystel is at their end with De Carne who is amazing most of the time, but seems to spray balls all around the gym when it matters most... |
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Post by sIsam on Jan 15, 2004 5:58:18 GMT -5
For enough $$$$$ just about anything can happen! Italy's transfer period goes thru the 26th I think. I'd be pretty shocked if Asystel could come up with enough money to buy her contract out. I was imagining Turkey's collective sigh of relief if the 26th passes and she's still with Gunes! I'm more interested in the idea that it means Asystel is at their end with De Carne who is amazing most of the time, but seems to spray balls all around the gym when it matters most... I know but there is a lot of $$$ here as well (and specifically at GUnes and Vakif). Since teams can play only 3 foreign players, good local players make excellent money here. If Gunes is to let Demir go then they will transfer a foreign player to take her place. Instead they can keep her and get THREE more good foreign players... We will see what happens though. I would love to see her playing out of Turkey... As for De Carne yep, that's what it seems like, if not this year definitely for next i'd say.... |
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Post by IT on Jan 15, 2004 8:32:03 GMT -5
Murina As far as I know, Demir can't go anywhere this season per her contract (and due to her age) with Vakif-Gunes. There are offers for her from Italy as well as from Japan. She says she will be considering them very seriously for future years. I think it'd be good both for her and for our nat'l team... In addition, as far as I know transfer here is over. Demir is her team's best player and they surely would have got someone in her place if they were going to sell her. I'd say look for her in Italy or somewhereelse quite soon though Just not this season... With the recent lack of form of the Russian team, it would not surprise me to see Kilic playing for them again. They currently need her a lot more than Turkey does and it is a sticky situation with the Turkish NT since Hanikoglu (IMO our best overall player...) can't play if Kilic does. Will keep you up-to-date if I hear something.... Would you know the specifics on the FIVB rule on newly naturalized citizens playing for a national team? I like to think of it as the Croatian rule when they had a lot of newly naturalized citizens from the former soviet republics on their national team. Eventually they had to pick only one (per this rule), Elena Cebukina to play for them in Sydney. |
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Post by sIsam on Jan 15, 2004 13:04:43 GMT -5
Would you know the specifics on the FIVB rule on newly naturalized citizens playing for a national team? I like to think of it as the Croatian rule when they had a lot of newly naturalized citizens from the former soviet republics on their national team. Eventually they had to pick only one (per this rule), Elena Cebukina to play for them in Sydney. The rule is widely known as the Croatian rule, thanks to a bunch of players who defected from Russia and played for them. Now they only allow one naturalized player per national team. Even if the naturalized player has never played for her former country, as long as her first licence was issued in that country, she counts as a naturalized player. (We have quite a few here that came from the turkic republics of the former ussr as children but we can't play them because they were already licenced there.) Hanikoglu (TUR), Kulakova (GER) and Donets (NED) are the best known players in Europe who play for new home countries. As for Croatia, I wonder if they opt for a setter this time and call Likhtenstein to the natl team. We will see soon when qualifiers start again. |
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Post by IT on Jan 15, 2004 14:51:52 GMT -5
Hanikoglu (TUR), Kulakova (GER) and Donets (NED) are the best known players in Europe who play for new home countries. Aren't they all from Ukraine, who use to have a competitive women's team in the mid 90s? Is Likhtenstein still playing? I thought she retired. |
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Post by sIsam on Jan 15, 2004 15:19:55 GMT -5
Aren't they all from Ukraine, who use to have a competitive women's team in the mid 90s? Is Likhtenstein still playing? I thought she retired. The croatian defectors were from russia mostly. kulakova is originally from kazakhstan and hanikoglu is from moscow russia. now sure about donets. likhtenstein was playing last year (and playing good), I assume she still is.... |
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Just not this season...
