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Post by orangeknight on Aug 26, 2015 11:12:22 GMT -5
Are there any college teams normally running the offense like the US national team with 5-1 and double sub system at some points? (I mean it's not completely either 5-1 or 6-2.)
This year, I just think some top teams like PSU or Texas or Washington have potential to try that.
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Post by n00b on Aug 26, 2015 11:13:59 GMT -5
Are there any college teams normally running the offense like the US national team with 5-1 and double sub system at some points? (I mean it's not completely either 5-1 or 6-2.) This year, I just think some top teams like PSU or Texas or Washington have potential to try that. College teams get 12 subs. There's really no reason to only do it one time through. They either run a full 5-1 or a full 6-2. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 26, 2015 11:20:24 GMT -5
Some teams will occasionally run a double sub. Usually it is just for one service rotation rather than the full 3 rotations USA employs and it is generally purely for blocking purposes (particularly for teams with a short setter/matching up with an imposing OH). The 3 rotations may happen occasionally, but if any team were as dedicated to the benefits of the double sub they'd be running a true 6-2 with 15 subs available.
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Post by Word on Aug 26, 2015 12:01:28 GMT -5
Are there any college teams normally running the offense like the US national team with 5-1 and double sub system at some points? (I mean it's not completely either 5-1 or 6-2.) This year, I just think some top teams like PSU or Texas or Washington have potential to try that. College teams get 12 subs. There's really no reason to only do it one time through. They either run a full 5-1 or a full 6-2. College has 15 subs I believe. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 26, 2015 12:49:36 GMT -5
Are there any college teams normally running the offense like the US national team with 5-1 and double sub system at some points? (I mean it's not completely either 5-1 or 6-2.) This year, I just think some top teams like PSU or Texas or Washington have potential to try that. College teams get 12 subs. There's really no reason to only do it one time through. They either run a full 5-1 or a full 6-2. Texas runs double subs for setters. They have the past couple seasons. Not true. 15 subs. Several teams do that, Texas being one of them. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 26, 2015 13:24:02 GMT -5
With Katy Beals going full-speed (according to practice reports), Washington will almost certainly run a 6-2. Next year, however, could be a different story.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 26, 2015 13:29:43 GMT -5
College teams get 12 subs. There's really no reason to only do it one time through. They either run a full 5-1 or a full 6-2. Texas runs double subs for setters. They have the past couple seasons. Not true. 15 subs. Several teams do that, Texas being one of them. Texas runs a true 6-2. Not a double sub as relates to the OP. |
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Post by sevb on Aug 26, 2015 13:50:53 GMT -5
Colleges get 15 subs...
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Post by rightsideonly on Aug 26, 2015 14:10:04 GMT -5
How many subs in International play |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 14:20:02 GMT -5
Texas runs a true 6-2. Not a double sub as relates to the OP. Don't think I'm that far off...I do not think they do not. True 6-2, setters both hit. That is not the case with TX. If we're going to be specific, Texas runs a modified 6-2, but it isn't the same "double sub" that you see Team USA running. International substitution rules only allow one re-entry by the starting player, whereas Texas' substitution pattern allows them to be subbed in an out several times over the course of a set. Texas runs a 6-2. |
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Post by rogero1 on Aug 26, 2015 14:50:51 GMT -5
How many subs in International play 6 & 1 per position. |
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Post by rogero1 on Aug 26, 2015 14:56:54 GMT -5
Are there any college teams normally running the offense like the US national team with 5-1 and double sub system at some points? (I mean it's not completely either 5-1 or 6-2.) This year, I just think some top teams like PSU or Texas or Washington have potential to try that. Not sure why they would do that when they have 15 subs to with. Why restrict yourself with the FIVB sub system (6 & 1)? If you are wanting to see if any NCAA women's teams would follow the NCAA men in adopting the FIVB subs, then would you like to buy the Brooklyn Bridge? |
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Post by truthandjustice on Aug 26, 2015 15:23:11 GMT -5
Isn't the double-sub just a 5-1 with different players?
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Post by evan on Aug 26, 2015 15:58:19 GMT -5
Are there any college teams normally running the offense like the US national team with 5-1 and double sub system at some points? (I mean it's not completely either 5-1 or 6-2.) This year, I just think some top teams like PSU or Texas or Washington have potential to try that. Not sure why they would do that when they have 15 subs to with. Why restrict yourself with the FIVB sub system (6 & 1)? If you are wanting to see if any NCAA women's teams would follow the NCAA men in adopting the FIVB subs, then would you like to buy the Brooklyn Bridge? I see more and more college teams running a 6-2 with the double sub occurring for the entirety of the set (or until all 15 subs have been used, which occurs only rarely). The benefit of always having three hitters and better blocking at the net is just too great an advantage to pass up if a team can field two good setters, and I think this also is why we see more FIVB teams using their more limited subs for this purpose as well. However, I personally prefer watching players with strong six rotation skills that are more valued under FIVB rules with their more limited substitutions. The increased specialization we see in NCAA from having increased to 15 subs/set a few years ago allows college teams to involve a larger number of players in each set, and I assume that NCAA went to this for women but not men as it justifies carrying larger women's team rosters which (not coincidentally) is a cheaper way for colleges to comply with Title IV. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 26, 2015 16:53:49 GMT -5
Not sure why they would do that when they have 15 subs to with. Why restrict yourself with the FIVB sub system (6 & 1)? If you are wanting to see if any NCAA women's teams would follow the NCAA men in adopting the FIVB subs, then would you like to buy the Brooklyn Bridge? You might if you have a six-rotation OPP, but would still like to take advantage of nine rotations in a row with three hitters/blockers in the frontrow that the double-sub provides. |
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