D1 Transfers [2016]

[rallyqueen]

Anyone know of a top 20 program needing a D1 impact setter transfer?

[bayarea]

Apr 11, 2016 21:38:25 GMT -5 Garand said:

If there's going to be a conversation purely about the relative academic quality of these schools, we should distinguish between admission standards (closely tied to overall academic ranking) and admission percentages (the fraction of applicants who are admitted).

The University of California schools are very, very solid academically, averaging within the top two percent in the country. They have a lower acceptance rate than many private schools like USC or Stanford because more kids are applying. Why is that? Because they are much better bargains for the local kids. As public schools, their tuition is relatively low, about $10K, I think, compared to more than $40K for Southern Cal (these are not current numbers, but I think I'm pretty close). So the California kids who get into UC schools are getting an equivalent education for a fraction of the cost.  Many apply, relatively few get in.

That said, USC is routinely ranked higher academically than all but one of the UC schools - Cal routinely beats them out. USC and UCLA have been ranked almost identically at around 25th overall for many years. (And, sorry, but Hawaii is nowhere near the academic standards all the schools mentioned above.)

Of course, the best school is the one that fits a kid best, regardless of ratings, rankings and admissions standards. And as was mentioned earlier, the value of a given school is generally specific to your major: if you want a degree in cinema, go to USC, not Yale, MIT or Harvard, even though those schools are "ranked" higher.

And, no , I didn't go to a UC school.

Agree with this assessment for regular applicants.  As for athletes, we all know kids who struggled in school but were admitted to a fairly tough academic school despite their academic history, and had to drop out, transfer, etc.  It's one thing to get admitted to a school, and another to succeed academically, to be able to carry the required class load each semester with passing grades while playing sports, and to hopefully graduate.  It's a good coach who recognizes an athlete that he/she would like to have but shouldn't take because they would be unlikely to succeed academically at that school.

[Wolfgang]

Let's be real. At nearly every college, the admissions standards for student-athletes are a lot lower than for the regular student body. I seriously don't think the vb players at Stanford, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, and the like are smarter than the vb players at state schools. Nor do I think they are higher achievers.

[Inside a Chinese Dragon]

Apr 12, 2016 17:05:56 GMT -5 Wolfgang said:

Let's be real. At nearly every college, the admissions standards for student-athletes are a lot lower than for the regular student body. I seriously don't think the vb players at Stanford, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, and the like are smarter than the vb players at state schools. Nor do I think they are higher achievers.

Too true. Earlier this year the publicity machine cranked up for a new book called The Battle for Room 134 by Ed Boland, a former assistant director of admissions at Yale. Excerpts of the book were widely circulated, chronicling how incredibly selective Yale is. There was this snippet, however:

And then there were the athletes. After fierce pressure from the athletic department, I had to admit a highly sought-after French Canadian hockey recruit. He had crappy grades, dismal scores, and his essay consisted of one sentence scribbled hastily in pencil: “I want to bée a great hockey player.” To add insult to injury, he decided to go to Boston University.

I know this discussion links back to Frankie Shebby... I wouldn't speculate on her situation. If indeed she's leaving Oregon, college kids transfer for myriad reasons—academics, homesickness, they miss their boyfriends, general lack of happiness with the school atmosphere—and athletes have the added dynamics of performance, teammates, coaches, demanding schedules, etc. If she's academically eligible, has a release in hand, and wasn't kicked off the team for doing something heinous, she'll find a place to play and go to school next year. It won't be Boston University, though. They don't have a volleyball team.

(And yeah, I know those Yale vb players are smarties. Sheesh.) 

[bayarea]

A pretty good source has it she has landed at UCSB. If true, UCSB has picked up some much needed firepower. Wish her well in class and on the court...she will have the added attraction/distraction of living next to the beach now.

[jengal]

Apr 12, 2016 20:34:10 GMT -5 bayarea said:

A pretty good source has it she has landed at UCSB. If true, UCSB has picked up some much needed firepower. Wish her well in class and on the court...she will have the added attraction/distraction of living next to the beach now.

Her Instagram pretty much gives it away. UCSB it is!

[azvolleydad]

Apr 12, 2016 17:05:56 GMT -5 Wolfgang said:

Let's be real. At nearly every college, the admissions standards for student-athletes are a lot lower than for the regular student body. I seriously don't think the vb players at Stanford, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, and the like are smarter than the vb players at state schools. Nor do I think they are higher achievers.

I know for a fact that no volleyball player at Vanderbilt has EVER earned a grade below A+.

[Wolfgang]

Apr 13, 2016 11:03:57 GMT -5 azvolleydad said:

Apr 12, 2016 17:05:56 GMT -5 Wolfgang said:

Let's be real. At nearly every college, the admissions standards for student-athletes are a lot lower than for the regular student body. I seriously don't think the vb players at Stanford, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, and the like are smarter than the vb players at state schools. Nor do I think they are higher achievers.

I know for a fact that no volleyball player at Vanderbilt has EVER earned a grade below A+.

I don't believe you. This is too ludicrous.

Also, even if true (which is highly unlikely), I have to wonder about grade inflation at Vanderbilt just as there was grade inflation at Stanford for many years.

[volleytalker16]

Apr 13, 2016 12:10:36 GMT -5 Wolfgang said:

Apr 13, 2016 11:03:57 GMT -5 azvolleydad said:

I know for a fact that no volleyball player at Vanderbilt has EVER earned a grade below A+.

I don't believe you. This is too ludicrous.

Also, even if true (which is highly unlikely), I have to wonder about grade inflation at Vanderbilt just as there was grade inflation at Stanford for many years.

Dude.....Vanderbilt doesn't even have women's volleyball. It's a joke....good lord

[vbprisoner]

Apr 13, 2016 12:10:36 GMT -5 Wolfgang said:

Apr 13, 2016 11:03:57 GMT -5 azvolleydad said:

I know for a fact that no volleyball player at Vanderbilt has EVER earned a grade below A+.

I don't believe you. This is too ludicrous.

Also, even if true (which is highly unlikely), I have to wonder about grade inflation at Vanderbilt just as there was grade inflation at Stanford for many years.

Vanderbilt has no volleyball team...........hence no volleyball player has EVER earned a grade below A+...LOL

[Wolfgang]

Ha ha...I totally forgot Vanderbilt has no vb team.

[sevb]

Apr 13, 2016 11:03:57 GMT -5 azvolleydad said:

Apr 12, 2016 17:05:56 GMT -5 Wolfgang said:

Let's be real. At nearly every college, the admissions standards for student-athletes are a lot lower than for the regular student body. I seriously don't think the vb players at Stanford, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, and the like are smarter than the vb players at state schools. Nor do I think they are higher achievers.

I know for a fact that no volleyball player at Vanderbilt has EVER earned a grade below A+.

I see what you did there... lol

[vballfreak808]

Jordan Vail - 6'1" Soph. Middle - Baylor to North Dakota

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[wishinwestcoastvb]

Maya McClendon no longer with Louisville.

[vballfreak808]

Abby Fesl - 5'11" Senior Setter - North Florida to Ohio State