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Post by guest2 on Nov 23, 2015 17:45:08 GMT -5
Depending on where they live in the offseason, a lot of private schools pay between $45-$75 per hour for adults running after school clubs. (Not necessarily volleyball) Some waiters make that, depending on the restaurant. (but they could put in a lot more than ten hours if they wanted to wait tables) Working as trainers seems a natural fit. Its been a long time since I worked construction but I was getting close to that with minimal skill 20 years ago. But lets say it was impossible though and each had to put in 15 hours a week? Why is that an unreasonable thing to ask? The more I think about this, the more obnoxious it seems. Two wealthy kids are too good to put in 45 hours a week to live their dream. If they reach their goal will they be staying in nights to save money? Doesn't do much to alter the prevailing, and 100% correct, view that BVB players are generally spoiled brats. Playing devil's advocate here as I know nothing of their personal situation - if their part time job is to fund their travel and entry fees, what money are they supposed to live on? How do you know they don't already have part-time jobs and that is what is buying them food, clothing and shelter? That 20 plus the 40k they made on the AVP plus another 2-3 k from sponsors and maybe 5k from NORCECA and FIVB, a little from the parents and they should be doing fine. If they were really hard up they could supplement their income with well paying local events (Pottstown pays 5k I believe) 70k is not retiring money, but for two athletes willing to rough it to chase the dream it should be fine.
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Post by digdugg on Nov 24, 2015 9:59:14 GMT -5
I have thought about this some more and read everyone's comments. They recently hired a sports agent and I am sure the strategy was all theirs (as opposed to the Crabbs). I think it is a little harsh of us to condemn their ethics as it relates to how hard they work or what other things they could do etc. At the same time, I am not sure they got great advice either. I think the real applicability is for true family and friends - think about it - if you grew up watching these brothers play from when they were kids or helped groom them as youngsters on the beach, it is not unreasonable to show your support and throw them a few bucks (and the website makes it super easy and seamless to do so). Think about any up and comer that you may have had a hand in grooming or played with or just got to know on a personal level - can you see yourself throwing them a few bucks or sponsoring them with your company for some advertising?
I think the idea breaks down when applied to greater beach community who don't have any real connection to them or know them on a personal level - to these people (like me), it comes off as a bit petty but I don't condemn them for it...
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Post by guest2 on Dec 1, 2015 23:38:46 GMT -5
Interesting match here
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Post by Monica on Dec 2, 2015 12:46:39 GMT -5
With all due respect to the audience that follows beach volleyball with a passion on this forum, lay off the Crabb brothers. We all collectively complain with the lack of support, the lack of attention, and the lack of funding that our US Beach Volleyball Professionals get yet when two enterprising beach volleyball up and comers venture out on their own and put a plan in place for growth, a portion of you do nothing but criticize them. With so much wrong in the world these days, can't you find someone or something else to criticize other than two fantastic volleyball players who play an exciting brand of the game we love ? Remember how down we all were when the prior ownership group for the AVP closed up shop abruptly and left us all high and dry for beach volleyball ... well let's just be thankful that in today's "connected" society, there is a mechanism in place for folks to put in place to obtain a bit of venture capital and market themselves. Hell, folks like Albert Hanneman, Matt Olson, and many others have done essentially the same thing that Trevor and Taylor are doing now for years. The only difference is that now there's a platform available to solicit for support that reaches far beyond the hand shake meetings of the past. I know we are all entitled to our opinions and the fact that we get to express them is a right we should all fight to protect, but bashing the Crabb brothers for trying to advance their career and in doing so, elevate our sport to a higher level .... we are all better than that. I can speak from seasons of experience being around both Trevor and Taylor every tournament, they are a pleasure to be around both on and off the court and they only add to an already large group of athletes that represent our sport in such a personable and professional manner.
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Post by guest2 on Dec 2, 2015 19:13:00 GMT -5
With all due respect to the audience that follows beach volleyball with a passion on this forum, lay off the Crabb brothers. We all collectively complain with the lack of support, the lack of attention, and the lack of funding that our US Beach Volleyball Professionals get yet when two enterprising beach volleyball up and comers venture out on their own and put a plan in place for growth, a portion of you do nothing but criticize them. With so much wrong in the world these days, can't you find someone or something else to criticize other than two fantastic volleyball players who play an exciting brand of the game we love ? Remember how down we all were when the prior ownership group for the AVP closed up shop abruptly and left us all high and dry for beach volleyball ... well let's just be thankful that in today's "connected" society, there is a mechanism in place for folks to put in place to obtain a bit of venture capital and market themselves. Hell, folks like Albert Hanneman, Matt Olson, and many others have done essentially the same thing that Trevor and Taylor are doing now for years. The only difference is that now there's a platform available to solicit for support that reaches far beyond the hand shake meetings of the past. I know we are all entitled to our opinions and the fact that we get to express them is a right we should all fight to protect, but bashing the Crabb brothers for trying to advance their career and in doing so, elevate our sport to a higher level .... we are all better than that. I can speak from seasons of experience being around both Trevor and Taylor every tournament, they are a pleasure to be around both on and off the court and they only add to an already large group of athletes that represent our sport in such a personable and professional manner. That's not what venture capital means.
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