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Post by IdahoBoy on May 3, 2004 22:28:36 GMT -5
Let's put together a list here... - The candidate should posess an ability to recruit and train at the highest levels.
- Deal with IdahoBoy being a critic of the program
- Be able to manage the Stimson Hall guys (primarily, keep them on your good list, these guys are a big reason WSU volleyball is good at home
- Be able to survive in a small college town
- Maintain a high standard for athletes on and off the court. Volleyball players in Pullman are role models to approximately the same ratio as in Hawaii (or Nebraska?) but just not as many kids to pull from for huge numbers.
The list of candidates I'd pull from? - Charlie Wade, Associate Head Coach, Hawaii (Winning experience, recruiting experience, popular program experience)
- Lee Maes, Associate Head Coach, California (Pac-10 experience)
- Burt Fuller, Head Coach, Utah State (Pac-10 experience, head coach experience, but he should see through Utah State to prove his coaching philosophy)
- Tom Hilbert, Head Coach, Colorado State (This guy likes the Palouse, but I don't expect him to leave CSU)
- Paula Weishoff, Concordia? (One of two potentially available woman I can think of that could win in Pullman.)
- Susie Fritz, Head Coach, Kansas State (The other woman, not so sure she'd coach so close to mentor Jim, though)
Let's face it... WSU will get a veritable who's who list to choose from. Tell me more or what you think.** **Unless you're on my ignore list.  |
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Post by 808 on May 3, 2004 22:34:50 GMT -5
If Weishoff really left USC for Concordia so that she wouldn't have to travel as much (one of the reasons I heard) and therefore wouldn't consider WSU's job and if Fritz wouldn't want to coach so close to mentor Jim (as suggested by IB), are there any other female candidates for this head coaching position?
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Post by IdahoBoy on May 3, 2004 22:41:16 GMT -5
If Weishoff really left USC for Concordia so that she wouldn't have to travel as much (one of the reasons I heard) and therefore wouldn't consider WSU's job and if Fritz wouldn't want to coach so close to mentor Jim (as suggested by IB), are there any other female candidates for this head coaching position? I honestly can't think of any AVAILABLE women that could compete for it in terms of what they have shown. Bobbi Peterson? Not really, because the guys that will apply are better candidates. The only person that I can think of that COULD overwhelmingly get the position is Mary Wise... but why would she leave the swamp? |
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Post by Volleyball101 on May 3, 2004 22:54:35 GMT -5
Hey idahoboy.......Remember the Snow storm was going to hit this soon Pullman that i was telling ya? Inside thing, ah
This is the smartest thing you have done so far on this site....Good Listing of the candidates!
Except maybe 2 candidates, Fritz is not ready for Pac-10 yet, Maes? not ready for tough recruit in Pullman. Paula, definitely the best female candidate so far. Charlie, for male counterpart might be a good choice, but will he leaves the sun-sand-100 degrees for our famous Palouse?. Mary? you got to be kidding, why would she comes to Pullman. Hopefully the WSU AD knows his volleyball.
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Post by GatorVball on May 3, 2004 23:23:24 GMT -5
Let's face it... WSU will get a veritable who's who list to choose from. Tell me more or what you think.** **Unless you're on my ignore list. Do you really think they'll get a who's who list to choose from? Nothing against the fine folks in Pullman, but aside from playing in the Pac-10, what does WSU have to offer a top notch coach? The cupboard is bare with players leaving left and right, the location isn't the greatest, the facilities aren't up to par(great atmosphere, but in need of an update). I think Cindy did a tremendous job at WSU. I really would be surprised to see a big name coach take that job. Granted, I don't know as much about WSU and all that it has to offer, but it doesn't seem to me to be that attractive of a position that top notch coaches and assistants would leave their current jobs for. If I'm wrong, and I probably am in some cases, those of you more familiar with WSU will point that out. Change my mind  Oh, and Mary Wise will only leave Florida when she retires. Life in Gainesville is too good for her. She's got everything she could ever want. |
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Post by vbfan on May 3, 2004 23:26:04 GMT -5
808: I have to disagree with you about Coach Fritz. She is a very good coach who led a team to a Big 12 Championship this year after getting 2nd and 3rd the two years before. However, I'm sure KSU is taking good care of her and rumor has it she has family in Kansas and that seems to be very important to her.
Paula is not going to take this job after she made such a big deal when she left USC about wanting to coach at a lower level with not as much pressure and traveling.
It might be a good time for Lee to go since Jerkov is basically done with collegiate volleyball. I'm sure Rich would do all he could to keep his current staff in place.
Charlie would be a good choice but to leave Hawaii for a program in much worse shape and a much tougher conference would be very interesting.
Whoever it is is going to have their work cut out for them and going to take some serious lumps next season. The exodus at WSU may be the only thing that keeps Oregon from not finishing at the bottom of the PAC next year.
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Post by simplycurious on May 4, 2004 0:15:49 GMT -5
Ok, you asked for some female candidates to consider for the position, here are a few of mine... Melissa Stokes (SMS) - great coach, but not ready for the Pac-10. She was briefly considered when Iowa began their search. Janine Smith (UTA) - good coach in a poor conference. She was one of the final names mentioned at Iowa and has family ties there, as well as being a decorated athlete at Wahlert HS in Dubuque. Again, not ready to make the jump to the Pac-10, especially from the Southland conference. Nicole Lantagne-Welch (Miami) - has done a nice job building a solid program in a short period of time. Not sure she's ready for the jump to the Pac-10, will see how she handles the ACC this season. Beth Launiere (Utah) - incredibly successful, not a bad choice. Don't know if she'd consider the Pac-10, but she might be as good a choice as Susie Fritz. Jill Hirschinger (New Hampshire) - is truly an underrated coach, having done a tremendous job at UNH, as well as Ferris St. where she was prior. Don't think she'll leave, nor do I think the jump from America East to Pac-10 is a reasonable one. Karen Curtis-Lamb (BYU) - don't know that she's made enough of a mark to get considered here (and don't think she'd be a good choice - no offense intended). Here are some who won't leave their posts: Debbie Green-Vargas (LSBU), Denise Corlett (Stanford), Kathy Gregory (UCSB), Mary Wise (FL), Laurie Corbelli (TX A&M), Nina Matthies (Pepperdine) and Debbie Brown (Notre Dame). Here are just a few who won't be considered: Jayne McHugh (UOP), Jolene Jordan-Hoover (Clemson), Kim Christopher (South Carolina) and Judy Green (Alabama). I'm purposefully avoiding women who have already been mentioned: Paula Weishoff (Concordia) - she's not even going to consider it because of her family situation; Bobbi Petersen (UNI) - she used the Iowa job to get some key things for her program at UNI and is in Cedar Falls for the long haul; Susie Fritz (K-St) - not a bad choice & might be the best 'guess' of all listed so far (except perhaps Beth at Utah), but I'm not sure she'd leave. Truthfully, I think the new head coach will be a male because WSU isn't going to get a high-profile (or quality) female candidate. So, here are some male candidates that I feel would be good considerations: Charlie Wade (HI), Lee Maes (Cal), Brian Heffernan (MN) and here's one people might consider 'crazy' - Jerritt Elliott (TX). Now before you laugh, consider that next week he'll marry Sarah Silvernail (now there's a decorated Cougar) and thus might be ready to "get the hell out of TX" and back into the Pac-10! Ok, chew on those for awhile, then let the opinions, comments and retorts fly! |
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Post by Pac10Fn on May 4, 2004 0:18:52 GMT -5
Do you really think they'll get a who's who list to choose from? Nothing against the fine folks in Pullman, but aside from playing in the Pac-10, what does WSU have to offer a top notch coach? The cupboard is bare with players leaving left and right, the location isn't the greatest, the facilities aren't up to par(great atmosphere, but in need of an update). Granted, I don't know as much about WSU and all that it has to offer, but it doesn't seem to me to be that attractive of a position that top notch coaches and assistants would leave their current jobs for. If I'm wrong, and I probably am in some cases, those of you more familiar with WSU will point that out. Change my mind Gator, it's obvious you don't know much about WSU...the volleyball facilities are MUCH nicer than UF's. The campus is beautiful, although it is way out there, But you're right about one thing...the weather is no where near as nice as Florida. Here's my take on the coaching situation...the athletic administration is not impressed by big names...look at their recent hires in other sports... (re: locals) I wouldn't be suprised to see someone from the Pacific Northwest get the job...someone with strong Washington ties who can recruit to the Palouse. I'm betting you'll see the Western Wash, Central Wash, Gonzaga, Seattle U. (who am I forgetting?) and other locals apply, AND get serious consideration...but that's just my best, reasonably educated guess... |
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Post by BarcelonaBob on May 4, 2004 0:23:45 GMT -5
Ditka.
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Post by GatorVball on May 4, 2004 0:39:48 GMT -5
Gator, it's obvious you don't know much about WSU...the volleyball facilities are MUCH nicer than UF's. The campus is beautiful, although it is way out there, But you're right about one thing...the weather is no where near as nice as Florida. Here's my take on the coaching situation...the athletic administration is not impressed by big names...look at their recent hires in other sports... (re: locals) I wouldn't be suprised to see someone from the Pacific Northwest get the job...someone with strong Washington ties who can recruit to the Palouse. I'm betting you'll see the Western Wash, Central Wash, Gonzaga, Seattle U. (who am I forgetting?) and other locals apply, AND get serious consideration...but that's just my best, reasonably educated guess... As I said, I didn't know much about WSU, but I seriously doubt the WSU are MUCH better than UF's. UF has 1st rate facilities all across the board, in every sport and volleyball is no different, from practice and weight training facilities, to the O'Dome. |
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Post by BonJoeV on May 4, 2004 0:50:42 GMT -5
..... Here's my take on the coaching situation...the athletic administration is not impressed by big names...look at their recent hires in other sports... (re: locals) I wouldn't be suprised to see someone from the Pacific Northwest get the job... ... I'm hoping the Vandals Associate Head Coach, Ken Murphy, does not apply. GO VANDALS '04!!  |
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Post by simplycurious on May 4, 2004 0:58:23 GMT -5
Ok, my 'book' on this subject is finally finished -- see above (four posts) if interested! ;D
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Post by Pac10Fn on May 4, 2004 1:10:39 GMT -5
As I said, I didn't know much about WSU, but I seriously doubt the WSU are MUCH better than UF's. UF has 1st rate facilities all across the board, in every sport and volleyball is no different, from practice and weight training facilities, to the O'Dome. You're right, Gator, both schools have great facilities...I just noticed a lack of respect for WSU's in your previous post...so we're even. However...WSU's colors are WAAAYYY nicer than Florida's...  |
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Post by Volleyball101 on May 4, 2004 1:52:29 GMT -5
wow..... some of these people on here sound like they have all of the answer of who will coach at WSU. Some of the names mention as a next candidates.....they need to attend coaching 101. PAC-10 will make them want to join hair club for men/women.
Gatorsfan........WSU is a first class volleyball facility..i am sure UF has good facility.
SimplyCurious..............Karen Lamb? eeeeeeeeewwww, she was the worse coach at WSU before and she will be a worse coach at BYU tooooo.
BonJoeV............Keep the potatoes in Idaho, ok............hahaha
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Post by simplycurious on May 4, 2004 2:15:19 GMT -5
SimplyCurious..............Karen Lamb? eeeeeeeeewwww, she was the worse coach at WSU before and she will be a worse coach at BYU tooooo. Hey, I didn't say she was a good candidate, just a female candidate! If you go back and read some of the original posts, people were asking for female names. As I stated in my post - I'm just throwing out some names, but truly feel the job will go to a male in the end (especially if they drag out the process and it gets close to August before someone is hired). |
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