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Post by guest2 on Jul 28, 2016 12:04:43 GMT -5
I was reading a story about Todd's retirement and it got me thinking which of the current players will be remembered the way we think of Karch, Kent, Rego, Ricardo, Randy etc.
I dont mean players like Frohoff or Reinder that have a good number of wins but never dominated, but players that were consistently in the top 4 or 5 guys.
Right now on the men's side the active players I think should be included are:
Phil
Allison
Todd
Bruno
Players with a good shot:
Evandro
Samilovs - if he can get a Varenhorst type partner.
As I was thinking of this it really occurred to me how much parity there is now and how rare real dominance is becoming
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Post by ardatak on Jul 28, 2016 15:30:57 GMT -5
Allison has shown some cracks recently. Bruno is going over on 2 a lot to bail him out and he seems tight even when setting. Could be a phase but I wouldn't count him in the HOF just yet.
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Post by guest2 on Jul 28, 2016 16:24:09 GMT -5
Allison has shown some cracks recently. Bruno is going over on 2 a lot to bail him out and he seems tight even when setting. Could be a phase but I wouldn't count him in the HOF just yet. I think he is already there. He has 20 wins and has been part of a couple dominant teams. Multiple wins in 5 different years and two years where he won half the events (more or less) He's only one FIVB behind Todd |
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 28, 2016 20:16:15 GMT -5
Allison has shown some cracks recently. Bruno is going over on 2 a lot to bail him out and he seems tight even when setting. Could be a phase but I wouldn't count him in the HOF just yet. I think he is already there. He has 20 wins and has been part of a couple dominant teams. Multiple wins in 5 different years and two years where he won half the events (more or less) He's only one FIVB behind Todd todd has a gold medal. |
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Post by guest2 on Jul 29, 2016 7:25:11 GMT -5
I think he is already there. He has 20 wins and has been part of a couple dominant teams. Multiple wins in 5 different years and two years where he won half the events (more or less) He's only one FIVB behind Todd todd has a gold medal. Fair point, although given the gold medal match in question there is a hair-thin difference between Todd's Gold and Allison's silver, and I think it mainly has to do with partner quality. |
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Post by butteryhands on Jul 30, 2016 0:43:08 GMT -5
If Tri Bourne becomes the best US player for the next ten years that could get him into that elite company. A lot would have to happen in order for him to achieve that much success - an equally great partner to help him sustain a period of dominance, a domestic tour which lasts and probably adds a few more events, international success... Taylor Crabb could also possibly be that guy if he continues to improve.
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Post by bvbllr on Aug 15, 2016 14:58:35 GMT -5
Allison has shown some cracks recently. Bruno is going over on 2 a lot to bail him out and he seems tight even when setting. Could be a phase but I wouldn't count him in the HOF just yet. ... only needs 2 more games in Rio to convince anyone who for whatever reason doesn't consider him as part of this group yet |
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Post by 5280volleyball on Aug 15, 2016 20:30:25 GMT -5
If Tri Bourne becomes the best US player for the next ten years that could get him into that elite company. A lot would have to happen in order for him to achieve that much success - an equally great partner to help him sustain a period of dominance, a domestic tour which lasts and probably adds a few more events, international success... Taylor Crabb could also possibly be that guy if he continues to improve. Just to spark discussion, what if Bourne could get Taylor Crabb to drop his brother. That team might have some potential, and Bourne should have enough FIVB points to keep them out of the qualifier most weekends. |
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Post by butteryhands on Aug 15, 2016 20:51:20 GMT -5
I agree! Taylor and Tri are probably the best young combination the USA could put together for 2020.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 17, 2016 15:02:09 GMT -5
Allison has shown some cracks recently. Bruno is going over on 2 a lot to bail him out and he seems tight even when setting. Could be a phase but I wouldn't count him in the HOF just yet. ... only needs 2 more games in Rio to convince anyone who for whatever reason doesn't consider him as part of this group yet One more and he is a Hall of Famer in my book. I think because he is so massive people think he is taller than he actually is, but he gives up a good amount of height to a lot of blockers on tour. A little Gibb-esque that way |
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Post by JB Southpaw on Aug 18, 2016 8:15:23 GMT -5
... only needs 2 more games in Rio to convince anyone who for whatever reason doesn't consider him as part of this group yet One more and he is a Hall of Famer in my book. I think because he is so massive people think he is taller than he actually is, but he gives up a good amount of height to a lot of blockers on tour. A little Gibb-esque that way I like the fire he is playing with, (hate that it had come against USA so early) to me, quite a few teams/athletes from Brazil have wilted under the home pressure. Alison seems to be picking up his intensity. Also, I think his setting is underrated. |
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