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Post by wonderer on Aug 21, 2016 15:27:07 GMT -5
The biggest achievement this quad was that USA Volleyball (and Karch/staff) made this into a team oriented program. There were a lot of times in the past where players were competing for the name on the back of jersey, and not for their team and country. That got reversed this quad, and will serve the US well moving into the future. are you sure this is a step forward and not backwards? we did just got a result WORST than previous teams in both Olympics AND WC... start understanding that TALENT > Team Sportsmanship how would Karch feel if he was taken off the roster for being the way he was on the court? Fawcett was needed to have an Opp hitting on the left side and nor have to run plays all over the net. and a high ball terminator like Hodge a passer like Tom and a dominant hitter like Hooker, would have not only made the US win, but in a dominating fashion. who cares if they fight, they all have one goal and will play together for the pursuit of gold like they have done in the past and got better results. |
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Post by Northern lights on Aug 21, 2016 16:14:19 GMT -5
Feels like KK would not make the same decisions again.
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Post by hookemhorns on Aug 21, 2016 16:20:09 GMT -5
The Karchees have the hive mind. They never stop singing his praises. I think it's going to interesting when he has to give Hooker an invite next spring. Her social media behavior during this olympics has been exemplary. She has sent out every signal that she is a changed person and that she is now willing to drink the koolaid and also sing kumbaya. The irony will be if she still has the talent and they somehow win gold in Tokyo 2020. If Karch's ego and hidden talent could mastermind that all the current boo birds would be on their knees before him with crow feathers hanging out of their mouths.
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Post by gr8ful on Aug 21, 2016 16:45:37 GMT -5
I guess Kerri's coach is to blame for her horrible play in the semi's and for only winning a bronze.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 16:55:19 GMT -5
I guess Kerri's coach is to blame for her horrible play in the semi's and for only winning a bronze. Ross is not traynor. Not the same chemistry with Walsh that missy had |
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Post by OptimusPrime on Aug 21, 2016 17:14:34 GMT -5
I tried but just can't  Dumbest arguments and posts ever in this thread! BTW, Ross was not the reason we lost the gold. Kerry shanked and served us out of matches. Still kudos to both ladies for fighting through everything and getting the bronze. Kerry classy as always and Ross will be our next Olympian with a different partner.  |
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Aug 21, 2016 17:22:29 GMT -5
I tried but just can't Dumbest arguments and posts ever in this thread! BTW, Ross was not the reason we lost the gold. Kerry shanked and served us out of matches. Still kudos to both ladies for fighting through everything and getting the bronze. Kerry classy as always and Ross will be our next Olympian with a different partner. everyone has a tough match here and there. Kerri's was in the semis. She was responsible and owned it. |
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Post by guidomn on Aug 21, 2016 18:15:27 GMT -5
I dont know whyt it is so difficult to understand for KK fans, TALENT >>>>>>> team sportsmanship
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Post by wonderer on Aug 21, 2016 18:18:35 GMT -5
Relying on a weak field doesn't deserve Gold. Discounting a world championship by blaming the field is a very weak argument. In the olympics the USA was undefeated when healthy, beating the gold medalist, the silver medalist and 4th place. They missed the gold match by 2 points in game 5 in their 4th consecutive game without their best player. They finished with the best record in the tournament. Yes, the loss was bitterly disappointing, but your narrative would be your narrative regardless of outcome. You blame the coach and staff for anything less than perfection, and discount success and refuse to give credit. my point is that the US would not be playing these close matches if the "A TEAM" was on court. The "A TEAM" would have dominated this cycle ( sort of like they did the 2012 cycle where they DOMINATED) |
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Post by kokyu on Aug 21, 2016 18:42:48 GMT -5
Relying on a weak field doesn't deserve Gold. Discounting a world championship by blaming the field is a very weak argument. In the olympics the USA was undefeated when healthy, beating the gold medalist, the silver medalist and 4th place. They missed the gold match by 2 points in game 5 in their 4th consecutive game without their best player. They finished with the best record in the tournament. Yes, the loss was bitterly disappointing, but your narrative would be your narrative regardless of outcome. You blame the coach and staff for anything less than perfection, and discount success and refuse to give credit. Quit trolling, our dismissed A team would destroy China and Serbia. DESTROY. |
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Post by ironhammer on Aug 21, 2016 19:27:09 GMT -5
I detect a lot of "what ifs" in this thread. What if Akinradewo wasn't injured in that match against Serbia? What if US didn't lose those two final points in the 5th set? What if Hooker was on the roster? What if Karch isn't the coach? Surely, we would have won?
Sorry, while its fun to speculate on the possibilities, reality is reality. US lost to Serbia in a match that mattered the most. You can say they choked, or just had bad luck or suffered a quirk in the system, whatever. But the fact they lost can't be changed.
You cannot prove having a different roster, coach, etc would have made the difference. Because we just don't know that.
No point crying over spilled milk. The past can't be changed. Look to the future.
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Post by vampiro on Aug 21, 2016 23:11:26 GMT -5
I detect a lot of "what ifs" in this thread. What if Akinradewo wasn't injured in that match against Serbia? What if US didn't lose those two final points in the 5th set? What if Hooker was on the roster? What if Karch isn't the coach? Surely, we would have won? Sorry, while its fun to speculate on the possibilities, reality is reality. US lost to Serbia in a match that mattered the most. You can say they choked, or just had bad luck or suffered a quirk in the system, whatever. But the fact they lost can't be changed. You cannot prove having a different roster, coach, etc would have made the difference. Because we just don't know that. No point crying over spilled milk. The past can't be changed. Look to the future. So...is this thread dumb? Yes. But really, so are the Karch worshippers. I have never seen someone put on a pedestal so much in my life because they won medals (Ok, except Phelps, I guess). So many excuses are made for him here. And the USA system has existed long before he came on; he's not some genius that just came up with it. And to the response of "look to the future"? We did!!! 4 years ago! The talks of Logan/Destinee came up many times. And the response was "We'll see" or "If we win gold, you'll all look like idiots". Well? We can't look to the future if past mistakes won't be corrected, especially when people say it is ALL OK. And if you believe that reality is reality, then you would also accept the real reason that they lost the semi. Hint: it certainly wasn't bad luck. |
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Dumbest arguments and posts ever in this thread!
