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Post by gnu2vball on Aug 20, 2016 20:34:47 GMT -5
I'll admit to being not one of the biggest supporters for Title IX. But, when you look at the composition of the US team and the success that US women have achieved...
Maybe Title IX is a good thing?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 20, 2016 21:27:40 GMT -5
the success in 1984 might have been due to Title IX - not sure the same argument holds today - since we simply have no way of knowing without TItle IX if a different system might have made for a better national team
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Post by lietuva on Aug 20, 2016 22:31:49 GMT -5
I hate title IX, What a mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 23:33:07 GMT -5
I had the same thought. I think Title IX has helped the US women be more competitive internationally. More medals are coming home from women than men, at least that's what I recall from the London Olympics.
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Post by gnu2vball on Aug 21, 2016 8:13:27 GMT -5
the success in 1984 might have been due to Title IX - not sure the same argument holds today - since we simply have no way of knowing without TItle IX if a different system might have made for a better national team I'd say the way our women are pretty much dominant is an upside to Title IX--and its effect has been cumulative--not immediate. I do regret that many traditional men's sports programs have been set aside to support women's sports.
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Post by vboldskool on Aug 21, 2016 8:25:06 GMT -5
No it came from the athletes' hard work, sacrifice, perseverance and dedication. Many of the OPPORTUNITIES for them do that came from Title IX.
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Post by gobruins on Aug 21, 2016 9:02:27 GMT -5
Title IX is about academics and academic opportunities, not athletics.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 21, 2016 13:37:17 GMT -5
Title IX had some negative effects, particularly on men's volleyball, but to act as if it isnt largely responsible for the dominance of female American athletes, is to be a Flat Earther
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Post by skiumahgopher on Aug 21, 2016 16:22:56 GMT -5
Title IX is about academics and academic opportunities, not athletics. Whoever the genius that connected school athletics to Title IX should be saluted.
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Post by gr8ful on Aug 21, 2016 16:33:05 GMT -5
Dollars equate to dominance in athletics, men or womens….
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 21, 2016 16:43:09 GMT -5
Title IX is first and foremost about fairness. Why should men get all the money, whether for sports or for academics? The obviously demonstrated fact that it has propelled US women's athletics to complete dominance is just a side effect.
The big cutbacks in men's sports are not really due to Title IX anyway. They are due to the massive amounts of money being spent on Football and Basketball. You could fund the entire men's wrestling, volleyball, and gymnastics teams at many universities if the head football coach got a pay cut to match the women's volleyball coach's salary.
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Post by gr8ful on Aug 21, 2016 16:47:35 GMT -5
Title IX is first and foremost about fairness. Why should men get all the money, whether for sports or for academics? The obviously demonstrated fact that it has propelled US women's athletics to complete dominance is just a side effect. The big cutbacks in men's sports are not really due to Title IX anyway. They are due to the massive amounts of money being spent on Football and Basketball. You could fund the entire men's wrestling, volleyball, and gymnastics teams at many universities if the head football coach got a pay cut to match the women's volleyball coach's salary. And see how much school revenues in top ranked programs drops when that happens LOL
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Post by lietuva on Aug 21, 2016 16:51:28 GMT -5
Title IX is first and foremost about fairness. Why should men get all the money, whether for sports or for academics? The obviously demonstrated fact that it has propelled US women's athletics to complete dominance is just a side effect. The big cutbacks in men's sports are not really due to Title IX anyway. They are due to the massive amounts of money being spent on Football and Basketball. You could fund the entire men's wrestling, volleyball, and gymnastics teams at many universities if the head football coach got a pay cut to match the women's volleyball coach's salary. That is about as dumb as it gets. If football didn't exist the way it is, most of the women's programs would not exists. If any woman in her sport can bring in a revenue to match football, she would get that same pay.
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Post by Northern lights on Aug 21, 2016 16:59:49 GMT -5
Title IX is first and foremost about fairness. Why should men get all the money, whether for sports or for academics? The obviously demonstrated fact that it has propelled US women's athletics to complete dominance is just a side effect. The big cutbacks in men's sports are not really due to Title IX anyway. They are due to the massive amounts of money being spent on Football and Basketball. You could fund the entire men's wrestling, volleyball, and gymnastics teams at many universities if the head football coach got a pay cut to match the women's volleyball coach's salary. That is about as dumb as it gets. If football didn't exist the way it is, most of the women's programs would not exists. If any woman in her sport can bring in a revenue to match football, she would get that same pay. It is absolutely about fairness. Equal access to academics and athletics between the genders. It has done marvelous things for women in life, and female athletics in general. Your football rant is not part of the discussion. Of course NCAA athletics would look differently without the revenue sports. Equal pay is part of the professional sport debate. However barely, the NCAA is currently not a professional league.
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Post by greenpier on Aug 21, 2016 17:13:41 GMT -5
No
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