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Post by ay2013 on Nov 23, 2016 12:53:23 GMT -5
If USD gets shut out no teams in Southern Cal will host a first round. NO USC, UCLA, Pepperdine, LBSU, USD, San Diego St, Cal State Fullerton. UCLA will definitely host the first and second rounds. agreed. even in the john wooden center. |
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Post by n00b on Nov 23, 2016 13:17:00 GMT -5
UCLA will definitely host the first and second rounds. agreed. even in the john wooden center. It looks like Pauley is available. Neither basketball team has a home game. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 23, 2016 13:22:05 GMT -5
Michigan and San Diego have been considered locks to host, but are likely to see themselves on the outside looking in (assuming UM goes 0-2 this week). Utah is licking its chops right now. There's a lot of crappy profiles in the at-large pool. - UNLV and Cincy have good RPIs without much behind them. The CSU, Georgia Tech, Temple clump right around the RPI cutline is very weak (which can do nothing but help UNLV and Cincy, to be honest). Illinois at this point looks safe as long as they beat Rutgers. So many terrible SOS near the bubble. Colorado has to be kicking themselves for dropping the ball against Cal, OSU and PDX St. They'd be a lock if they didn't drop those. frankly, I think Utah has a pretty good look at a seed. They have 4 top 25 wins, two of which are over non-conference seeded teams (BYU and Missouri) and all 4 of which (including Stanford and Oregon) are on the road! That's a better resume to me than Kentucky, Creighton, Kansas State, or Michigan. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 23, 2016 13:27:13 GMT -5
Michigan and San Diego have been considered locks to host, but are likely to see themselves on the outside looking in (assuming UM goes 0-2 this week). Utah is licking its chops right now. There's a lot of crappy profiles in the at-large pool. - UNLV and Cincy have good RPIs without much behind them. The CSU, Georgia Tech, Temple clump right around the RPI cutline is very weak (which can do nothing but help UNLV and Cincy, to be honest). Illinois at this point looks safe as long as they beat Rutgers. So many terrible SOS near the bubble. Colorado has to be kicking themselves for dropping the ball against Cal, OSU and PDX St. They'd be a lock if they didn't drop those. frankly, I think Utah has a pretty good look at a seed. They have 4 top 25 wins, two of which are over non-conference seeded teams (BYU and Missouri) and all 4 of which (including Stanford and Oregon) are on the road! That's a better resume to me than Kentucky, Creighton, Kansas State, or Michigan. I agree on Utah. But Pablo has them losing to Arizona tonight and that would take their RPI out of contention. |
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Post by southie on Nov 23, 2016 13:56:15 GMT -5
When it comes to the last one or two Top 16 seeds, it's very easy for the committee to base their decisions on factors such as geography. That would not play into Utah's favor, IMO. But, it sure does help Kentucky.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 23, 2016 14:15:07 GMT -5
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 23, 2016 14:16:22 GMT -5
When it comes to the last one or two Top 16 seeds, it's very easy for the committee to base their decisions on factors such as geography. That would not play into Utah's favor, IMO. But, it sure does help Kentucky. With the saturation in the region, it's actually not helping Creighton or K-State any more than it does Utah. Despite it's terrible profile, UNLV has a REALLY high RPI and would get rid of a fly-in if they made it over Colorado St. That'll be interesting to watch. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 23, 2016 14:23:40 GMT -5
When it comes to the last one or two Top 16 seeds, it's very easy for the committee to base their decisions on factors such as geography. That would not play into Utah's favor, IMO. But, it sure does help Kentucky. Would they site subregionals in both Salt Lake City and Provo? BYU is a lock, but Utah is very much on the bubble for hosting. More likely Utah will be "traveling" to Provo. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 23, 2016 14:25:51 GMT -5
We all know the committee loves Kentucky, but I think it's a terrible message to start basing seeding over geography. How terribly unfair.
If Utah can take care of Arizona, the committee would be hard pressed to justify them not being seeded, given the criteria.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 23, 2016 14:34:37 GMT -5
We all know the committee loves Kentucky, but I think it's a terrible message to start basing seeding over geography. How terribly unfair. If Utah can take care of Arizona, the committee would be hard pressed to justify them not being seeded, given the criteria. Seeding Utah over San Diego doesn't add that many flights. San Diego only had 1 drive-in and they help rectify that by driving into UCLA. The other choices for San Diego (Creighton, K-State, Oregon-if-they-win tonight) would add just as many or more as Utah. I also found the bracket a little easier to balance this way - we needed to send an AQ out west as a "3 seed" and a first round match-up against a "just missed" seed like San Diego in Westwood is the best place to put them. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 23, 2016 14:36:18 GMT -5
When it comes to the last one or two Top 16 seeds, it's very easy for the committee to base their decisions on factors such as geography. That would not play into Utah's favor, IMO. But, it sure does help Kentucky. Would they site subregionals in both Salt Lake City and Provo? BYU is a lock, but Utah is very much on the bubble for hosting. More likely Utah will be "traveling" to Provo. let's not pretend that close non conference sub regional hosts are unprecedented. Just a couple years the committee gave seeds to USC and San Diego, with 4 of the 6 teams being fly ins. |
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Post by n00b on Nov 23, 2016 14:38:33 GMT -5
We all know the committee loves Kentucky, but I think it's a terrible message to start basing seeding over geography. How terribly unfair. If Utah can take care of Arizona, the committee would be hard pressed to justify them not being seeded, given the criteria. Don't worry, there's no reason to think that that actually happens. The committee follows the NCAA guidelines to a T, and that is not something they care about. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 23, 2016 14:42:19 GMT -5
Everybody wants into a Kansas regional... I'm hoping that the committee won't be placing UW and Nebraska in the same regional for the third straight year (and five out of the last seven years, six out of the last nine years), as well as sending Hawaii to Seattle (four out of the last seven years). With Nebraska likely a perennial regional host going forward, I really would like to see more diversity in who gets sent where - Oregon hasn't been to Lincoln lately... |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Nov 23, 2016 14:43:13 GMT -5
Hawai'i will not face Ohio St in the first round. Sorry, not going to happen.
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Post by n00b on Nov 23, 2016 14:45:41 GMT -5
Everybody wants into a Kansas regional... I'm hoping that the committee won't be placing UW and Nebraska in the same regional for the third straight year (and five out of the last seven years, six out of the last nine years), as well as sending Hawaii to Seattle (three out of the last six years). With Nebraska likely a perennial regional host going forward, I really would like to see more diversity in who gets sent where - Oregon hasn't been to Lincoln lately... That's not how it works. If Nebraska is #1 overall, then Washington WILL be in their region if they are #8, #9 or #16. I think the committee does have directives to try to not send teams to the same subregional year after year but the regional matchups are strictly based on seeding. |
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