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Post by roofed! on Aug 25, 2004 18:35:51 GMT -5
According to USC press release for the upcoming NACWAA, Jessica had a severe sprained left ankle, and unlikely to see any action until the end of september. It seems now that the other OH position would most likely go to Sarah Florian.
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Post by GatorVball on Aug 25, 2004 18:56:03 GMT -5
Is Florian now healthy too? Wasn't she injured last month, which caused her to miss playing on the JNT? Sorry to hear that, hopefully she heals up soon. Injuries suck.
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Post by Mumsie on Aug 25, 2004 19:02:13 GMT -5
That's too bad. Would "Active Ankles" have helped minimize a sprain like that? I see those worn by so many players.
Is the OH position really between 2 freshmen?
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Post by IdahoBoy on Aug 25, 2004 19:09:37 GMT -5
I think that Active Ankles and such are typically a measure taken AFTER having suffered a severe sprain. I'm one in the train of thought that says don't wear them if you're not injured, because you'll just weaken your ankles.
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Post by Mumsie on Aug 25, 2004 19:16:56 GMT -5
I think that Active Ankles and such are typically a measure taken AFTER having suffered a severe sprain. I'm one in the train of thought that says don't wear them if you're not injured, because you'll just weaken your ankles. Well, someone I know has worn them ever since she had a serious sprain in high school, and since then has had a couple of sprains that I am convinced would have been much more severe had she NOT been wearing Active Ankles. But, there are two schools of thought on that... |
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Post by IdahoBoy on Aug 25, 2004 19:28:09 GMT -5
Well, someone I know has worn them ever since she had a serious sprain in high school, and since then has had a couple of sprains that I am convinced would have been much more severe had she NOT been wearing Active Ankles. But, there are two schools of thought on that... Well... I agree with wearing them AFTER an initial serious sprain.... but I would strongly suggest against wearing them as a preventative measure. Your ankles wouldn't have a chance to become strong on their own with them. |
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Aug 25, 2004 19:34:56 GMT -5
That's too bad. Would "Active Ankles" have helped minimize a sprain like that? I see those worn by so many players. Is the OH position really between 2 freshmen? You get different answers from different sources. Talked to a professional sports trainer at one of the CAP clinics I went to that also had the VCS (Volleyball Conditioning Specialist or something like) course as well. He swore by them. Talked to the orthopedic surgeon who did the 3rd and final surgery on my knee (I'm not planning on having anymore hopefully until I'm geriatric and they have to replace the whole damn joint) and his philosophy was that in a complex biomechanical movement, the stress gets passed to the next joint in the chain (in this case the knee). So he was pretty much saying choose which you would rather have get injured, your ankle or your knee. Personally, I've never used them. The only ankle problems I've had in volleyball have been from out-of-control doofuses coming under the net and taking me out. Worst ankle sprain I ever had was a grade 4 and it came playing pickup basketball when I stepped on my own shoelace which had become untied. Wasn't too funny at the time but it is now that I can look back at it. LOL. |
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Post by Mumsie on Aug 25, 2004 20:08:49 GMT -5
You get different answers from different sources. Talked to a professional sports trainer at one of the CAP clinics I went to that also had the VCS (Volleyball Conditioning Specialist or something like) course as well. He swore by them. Talked to the orthopedic surgeon who did the 3rd and final surgery on my knee (I'm not planning on having anymore hopefully until I'm geriatric and they have to replace the whole damn joint) and his philosophy was that in a complex biomechanical movement, the stress gets passed to the next joint in the chain (in this case the knee). So he was pretty much saying choose which you would rather have get injured, your ankle or your knee. . Well, I can understand that and it does make sense. And, I'm not arguing with an expert. But, I wonder if anyone has actually done statistics on that. Because if you're going to screw up your knee, it will probably happen anyway, whether you are wearing ankle guards or not. Also, if you don't wear them all the time (and of course you wouldn't), and only wear them during games or scrimmages, then how REALLY does that make your ankles weaker, just because you wear them during games? That logic doesn't fly with me. I mean, it's not like you are going to wear them when you do your weight lifting! |
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Aug 25, 2004 20:35:21 GMT -5
Well, I can understand that and it does make sense. And, I'm not arguing with an expert. But, I wonder if anyone has actually done statistics on that. Because if you're going to screw up your knee, it will probably happen anyway, whether you are wearing ankle guards or not. Also, if you don't wear them all the time (and of course you wouldn't), and only wear them during games or scrimmages, then how REALLY does that make your ankles weaker, just because you wear them during games? That logic doesn't fly with me. I mean, it's not like you are going to wear them when you do your weight lifting! I don't think it's a stronger/weaker argument that my ortho was talking about. It was supported vs. unsupported joint. The supported joint will have more structural integrity than the unsupported joint. So in that matter, yes the ankle will be stronger than the knee. I just never used them because they felt like they hindered my movements. Same reason I don't like high-top bball shoes. Also, the force applied to these joints in a normal volleyball environment (jumping, quick start/stop, lateral movements) is as great, if not greater, than weight-training. |
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Post by beachman on Aug 26, 2004 11:20:57 GMT -5
There are still trainers out there who feel that a great taping job is just about as effective as anything can be....active ankles do have their downside, and unless your player is very prone to sprains many trainers do not encourage that they be worn as a precautionary measure. Most all players tape before practice and before games........
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Post by Netter on Aug 28, 2004 23:57:53 GMT -5
I know its easy to start with one topic and take off on another, but its unfortunate Gysin has an ankle sprain, but in the big picture I'm glad its a sprain to the ankle and not to the knee that she had surgery on a year or so ago. But, until the ankle brace topic was brought up, I realized that I've seen more ankle braces worn by club volleyball players than college players. Maybe its the taping. But to the bigger picture. Whether Gysin or Florian got much playing time between now and the end of September probably wasn't going to impact SC too much because Burdine and Robinson are probably going to get most of the OH time anyway.
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