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Post by 405LAX on May 29, 2017 16:23:12 GMT -5
So I saw the pair play in person in Huntington and can clearly see the potential as any human could but after watching the bronze match in Rio, some issues are pretty clear. Casey needs to pass better for Theo who is not super confident in his hands, bump setting balls 8-10+ feet off net, creating real problems when Casey takes a full crack at the ball. Casey also has the need to swing full-on far too often when a cutty or jumbo would work wonders. It also feels like Casey isn't elevating quite as well as in the past which could simply be Father Time's involvement. Thoughts?
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Post by guest2 on May 29, 2017 16:48:49 GMT -5
Thats interesting, for the last few years I have thought Casey shoots too much internationally. Agree that Theo's setting is that teams most glaring weakness. Speed of both players is also a problem in scramble plays and on defense generally
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Post by 23flavors on May 29, 2017 18:43:16 GMT -5
I also thought Casey struggled during that bronze match. I agree his jump looked pitiful. But I also thought he looked bad, like maybe he was sick or something.
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Post by swift on May 30, 2017 2:24:34 GMT -5
To me it always seemed that a lot of players didn't serve Casey because he's harder to read due to his unconventional style of playing not because he's a great jumper or hitter. For a guy his size his hits graze the top of the net far to often imo(or he even hits the ball into the net quite often). I'd also agree with guest2 that Casey tends to shoot too much. To me he's at his best when he makes digs and swings hard.
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Post by donnyb on May 30, 2017 10:25:10 GMT -5
I just think he hits more on the right and shoots more from the left. He's kind of always been that way
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Post by guest2 on May 30, 2017 10:48:34 GMT -5
I just think he hits more on the right and shoots more from the left. He's kind of always been that way I agree to an extent but when I see him play AVP it seems like he swings more and attacks with more confidence. |
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Post by donnyb on May 30, 2017 11:15:52 GMT -5
That's because there's only like 2 blockers that effect him. Fivb pretty much every blocker is good
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Post by guest2 on May 30, 2017 12:11:01 GMT -5
That's because there's only like 2 blockers that effect him. Fivb pretty much every blocker is good There are some elite blockers on the AVP. Phil, Jake until recently, Ryan, Theo are all among the world's best. Maybe its that Casey is more familiar with him than the FIVB guys, but I dont think weaker blockers is necessarily what it is. |
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Post by slackerdad on May 30, 2017 12:16:56 GMT -5
I think the most effective hitters swing at balls that most wouldn't swing at and save their shots for butter sets that most would try to bounce.
This kind of play doesn't look as pretty because you'll definitely induce more hitting errors swinging at poorly set balls but compare that outcome to to an easily diggable down-ball that's now in-system for your opponent. Rolls and cutties on the good sets, don't inspire "ohhs" and "ahhs" like crater-makers do, but you'll rarely get stuff blocked. Even if the defender gets to it, they'll probably be scrambling and not in system. Plus you'll save your energy and shoulder while expending the defenders energy.
And consistently grazing the tape is beautiful. The ball doesn't travel the way the defender is reading the arm swing so the reduced velocity is more than off-set by forcing the defender to move and not get his feet to the ball. Most effective digs come from balls that don't tip the net and allow the properly located defender to remain stationary and just get a body part on the ball to direct it upwards. Hitting the net changes the speed and can also create unusual back- or side-spin on the ball; not situations you get a lot of opportunities to practice digging. I haven't seen statistics but I'm guessing the subsequent kill-rate is higher when a hard driven ball is hand-passed vs dug w/platform. When the ball hits the tape, often defenders can't play it with their hands or at least (with me) creates a moment of hesitation to determine if it's driven enough to take with hands.
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Post by JB Southpaw on May 30, 2017 12:19:31 GMT -5
That's because there's only like 2 blockers that effect him. Fivb pretty much every blocker is good There are some elite blockers on the AVP. Phil, Jake until recently, Ryan, Theo are all among the world's best. Maybe its that Casey is more familiar with him than the FIVB guys, but I dont think weaker blockers is necessarily what it is. My thought is, I think he knows he can get real points on the AVP, so he is more confident swinging. When he plays FIVB top 5 teams, he maybe tightens up a bit and tries too hard? I'd venture to say Gibb and Casey last year probably had the best record during pool play, they always beat the teams they were favored against. |
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Post by donnyb on May 30, 2017 13:47:17 GMT -5
That's because there's only like 2 blockers that effect him. Fivb pretty much every blocker is good There are some elite blockers on the AVP. Phil, Jake until recently, Ryan, Theo are all among the world's best. Maybe its that Casey is more familiar with him than the FIVB guys, but I dont think weaker blockers is necessarily what it is. Yeah that leaves only 2 because he's been playing with one of them the whole time. And think he probably only has to play the 1 good blocker in order to make the finals or in the finals. Fivb every match there's a good Blocker |
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Post by guest2 on May 30, 2017 14:53:12 GMT -5
There are some elite blockers on the AVP. Phil, Jake until recently, Ryan, Theo are all among the world's best. Maybe its that Casey is more familiar with him than the FIVB guys, but I dont think weaker blockers is necessarily what it is. Yeah that leaves only 2 because he's been playing with one of them the whole time. And think he probably only has to play the 1 good blocker in order to make the finals or in the finals. Fivb every match there's a good Blocker But he has also been playing against one the whole time, so its three, at least two of whom he usually has to play. Plus over the years there has been Keenan and Fuerby as well as guys like Robbie Page. On the FIVB there are some great blockers, the Dutch for example, but a lot of teams aren't exactly overwhelming at the net. The Latvians, Germany, the Brazilians other than Allison are poor blockers (for their size or in Pedro's case they are undersized) I think JB is on the right track in putting it down to confidence. |
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Post by donnyb on May 30, 2017 15:03:57 GMT -5
Robbie page 😂😂
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Post by guest2 on May 30, 2017 17:50:01 GMT -5
I know, but he is 7 feet tall |
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Post by 405LAX on May 30, 2017 22:09:00 GMT -5
One other thing I noticed in Huntington versus Rio, nets in Huntington looked low, measured with my arm and appeared to be inch or 2 low. Conversely Rio looked like they were well at 8', hence Casey netting balls more than AVP. Also agree with international blockers being FAR superior to domestic guys, in Huntington only Eddy R, Phil & Theo (Slick too I guess) were putting up legit walls, everyone else was decent but not dominating. Though again, I say that Lorenz has one of the most underrated walls in volleyball, guy skies.
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