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Post by n00b on Aug 14, 2017 9:36:01 GMT -5
Katie Karbo, L, Houston
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Post by n00b on Aug 14, 2017 9:41:35 GMT -5
ay2013 is up for the penultimate pick
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Post by Fight On! on Aug 14, 2017 12:15:15 GMT -5
ay2013 is up for the penultimate pick Can't pick that last MB ay2013?
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 14, 2017 13:07:49 GMT -5
More that I just woke up 😝
I have a couple in mind, BUT I need a ruling. We agreed to defer to the position played last year, Stone got a hybrid ruling since she played both MB and OPP to end last year but we never established the definition of a MB. Are we going by their rotation in the lineup? how they are used in the offense? I ask because some teams employ their version of a "3 middle offense". I'd like to draft Kira Larson as a MB. Her rotation was opposite the setter but she played almost exclusively a middle offense, running slides ad naseum. Despite what the Missouri roster says now, they are thin in the middle and Larson could and probably will be in a more traditional rotation setting (though current roster placement should not count, right?). I'm not going to be offended if the answer is no BUT then how do we justify Lohman, Minnesota, placement on a roster as a MB? All last year she played opposite the setter, being subbed out for a DS in the backrow. She played a middle offense, similar to Larson, but her rotation was opposite the setter, like Larson.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 13:18:51 GMT -5
More that I just woke up 😝 I have a couple in mind, BUT I need a ruling. We agreed to defer to the position played last year, Stone got a hybrid ruling since she played both MB and OPP to end last year but we never established the definition of a MB. Are we going by their rotation in the lineup? how they are used in the offense? I ask because some teams employ their version of a "3 middle offense". I'd like to draft Kira Larson as a MB. Her rotation was opposite the setter but she played almost exclusively a middle offense, running slides ad naseum. Despite what the Missouri roster says now, they are thin in the middle and Larson could and probably will be in a more traditional rotation setting (though current roster placement should not count, right?). I'm not going to be offended if the answer is no BUT then how do we justify Lohman, Minnesota, placement on a roster as a MB? All last year she played opposite the setter, being subbed out for a DS in the backrow. She played a middle offense, similar to Larson, but her rotation was opposite the setter, like Larson. I'm no rules czar, but if she (Larson) plays MB despite being rostered as an OPP, I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to use her as a MB.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Aug 14, 2017 13:25:26 GMT -5
More that I just woke up 😝 I have a couple in mind, BUT I need a ruling. We agreed to defer to the position played last year, Stone got a hybrid ruling since she played both MB and OPP to end last year but we never established the definition of a MB. Are we going by their rotation in the lineup? how they are used in the offense? I ask because some teams employ their version of a "3 middle offense". I'd like to draft Kira Larson as a MB. Her rotation was opposite the setter but she played almost exclusively a middle offense, running slides ad naseum. Despite what the Missouri roster says now, they are thin in the middle and Larson could and probably will be in a more traditional rotation setting (though current roster placement should not count, right?). I'm not going to be offended if the answer is no BUT then how do we justify Lohman, Minnesota, placement on a roster as a MB? All last year she played opposite the setter, being subbed out for a DS in the backrow. She played a middle offense, similar to Larson, but her rotation was opposite the setter, like Larson. Just to throw my two cents in, Larson never attacked or blocked from the middle.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 14, 2017 13:28:58 GMT -5
More that I just woke up 😝 I have a couple in mind, BUT I need a ruling. We agreed to defer to the position played last year, Stone got a hybrid ruling since she played both MB and OPP to end last year but we never established the definition of a MB. Are we going by their rotation in the lineup? how they are used in the offense? I ask because some teams employ their version of a "3 middle offense". I'd like to draft Kira Larson as a MB. Her rotation was opposite the setter but she played almost exclusively a middle offense, running slides ad naseum. Despite what the Missouri roster says now, they are thin in the middle and Larson could and probably will be in a more traditional rotation setting (though current roster placement should not count, right?). I'm not going to be offended if the answer is no BUT then how do we justify Lohman, Minnesota, placement on a roster as a MB? All last year she played opposite the setter, being subbed out for a DS in the backrow. She played a middle offense, similar to Larson, but her rotation was opposite the setter, like Larson. I'm no rules czar, but if she (Larson) plays MB despite being rostered as an OPP, I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to use her as a MB. I think the issue is that Lohman actually played MB (Zone 3), whereas Larson played Zone 2 exclusively.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 14, 2017 13:30:11 GMT -5
More that I just woke up 😝 I have a couple in mind, BUT I need a ruling. We agreed to defer to the position played last year, Stone got a hybrid ruling since she played both MB and OPP to end last year but we never established the definition of a MB. Are we going by their rotation in the lineup? how they are used in the offense? I ask because some teams employ their version of a "3 middle offense". I'd like to draft Kira Larson as a MB. Her rotation was opposite the setter but she played almost exclusively a middle offense, running slides ad naseum. Despite what the Missouri roster says now, they are thin in the middle and Larson could and probably will be in a more traditional rotation setting (though current roster placement should not count, right?). I'm not going to be offended if the answer is no BUT then how do we justify Lohman, Minnesota, placement on a roster as a MB? All last year she played opposite the setter, being subbed out for a DS in the backrow. She played a middle offense, similar to Larson, but her rotation was opposite the setter, like Larson. Just to throw my two cents in, Larson never attacked or blocked from the middle. She attacked slides almost exclusively, like many other MB1's. I'm psuedo playing devils advocate here BUT is the only difference here between Larson and Lohman is that Lohman hit more 1's and 2's rather than slides? would whichever Tapp she played front row with NOT be considered a MB because when they were front row together the Tapp's were the ones hitting slides and Lohman was hitting quicks? Is it about the blocking?....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 13:49:49 GMT -5
Ugh this is so complicated. TBH, if we were going to count positional/zone attacking as a requirement, we should have said so at the start of the draft. Ay correctly noted that many M1s attack behind the setter
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Post by BuckysHeat on Aug 14, 2017 13:52:21 GMT -5
Let's just make a pick, I really want to finish this, have been waiting most of the day. It's not rocket science or even serious
Edit to add: If she is not picking up digs in the backrow as a 6 position player and is listed as a middle then just call it that way
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 14, 2017 13:54:28 GMT -5
Let's just make a pick, I really want to finish this, have been waiting most of the day. It's not rocket science or even serious Edit to add: If she is not picking up digs in the backrow as a 6 position player and is listed as a middle then just call it that way She's listed as an OPP.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Aug 14, 2017 13:59:48 GMT -5
Let's just make a pick, I really want to finish this, have been waiting most of the day. It's not rocket science or even serious Edit to add: If she is not picking up digs in the backrow as a 6 position player and is listed as a middle then just call it that way She's listed as an OPP. Then she's an opp, pick a middle, there are a lot of them left
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 14, 2017 14:01:23 GMT -5
I'll defer to n00b before I pick.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 14, 2017 14:04:23 GMT -5
Then she's an opp, pick a middle, there are a lot of them left but we already established that position minimum is NOT based on current roster listing, like Plummer being listed as a setter right now at Stanford, that doesn't count. It's based on what she played last year, and my argument is that what she played last year was in a rotation opposite the setter, but in a middle offense. Why is that different than Molly Lohman, who was in a rotation opposite the setter, but played in a middle offense? The question isn't what she's listed as on the 2017 roster, it's what we are defining as a middle. The Missouri roster is THIN, listing just two players as MB, one of them a freshmen. We all know that roster positions can and do change, and what a player is listed as and what they actually play don't always jive.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 14, 2017 14:24:21 GMT -5
The slide does not a middle make.
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