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Post by rtael on Oct 15, 2017 18:10:21 GMT -5
I had a post about it on the Big 12 thread, but OU should be better than they are. Restrepo has had some success there, but they're abysmal, and have been for a bit. They have amazing access to top talent, they have resources, there's a commitment at OU for success in non revenue sports. Their current level of performance is extremely subpar. What is the difference between subpar and extremely subpar? An extra birdie. |
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 15, 2017 18:46:54 GMT -5
Can you explain what the difference is between the public/private side of Cornell is and how it affects the course of study they offer? I would think you still have to be admitted into Cornell University, and the College associated with your major using the same standard. I guess I'm kinda confused by what you mean as to a large number of student athletes in one major course of study or one College at the University. If that is the best program in the country for that particular major wouldn't you think that a lot of students attend Cornell for that reason and that the high percentage of student athletes reflects the larger student body as a whole. I'm not exactly sure, but this was the subject of a bitter feud between Ann Coulter and Keith Olbermann: |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 18:57:42 GMT -5
Sorry, I couldn't watch it. Anything with Ann Coulter's voice makes me want to vomit.
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 15, 2017 18:59:06 GMT -5
Sorry, I couldn't watch it. Anything with Ann Coulter's voice makes me want to vomit. The first minute or two explains it all, and she doesn't say a word. |
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Post by stats1st on Oct 15, 2017 19:40:39 GMT -5
So.... Hot Seat anyone?
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Post by Fight On! on Oct 15, 2017 20:01:49 GMT -5
Others have clamored for UCSB and BC to make a move. Now USC. Maybe UMBC? Or UMKC? Or UMES? IDK... USC could go after Steve Aird, Brandon Rosenthal, Kristen Bernthal Booth, Chris Lamb, Misty May. USC wants Hugh or Karch. Personally, I want Aird. |
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Post by itsallrelative on Oct 15, 2017 20:23:40 GMT -5
How about a conversation regarding what happened to the mid-major teams that used to be ranked top 25, top 50/75 and would regularly win or compete for their conference championships, knock off BCS schools, were consistently top finishers in their conferences: Ohio University, Middle Tennessee State, Belmont, Tulsa, Moorehead State, FIU, UT San Antonio, Marshall, Dayton, Georgia Southern, App State, Liberty, Winthrop, Marquette, UAB, Lipscomb, South Florida, Furman, Samford, Northern Iowa, George Mason, University Of Delaware, Florida Gulf Coast. Some have had coaching changes, some have not. Some of the coaches moved on to bigger schools and are doing good & some did not do good, some lost their jobs due to NCAA Violations or other things. And those that are still with their programs can't seem to get back to that level. And, could have a separate topic, conversation about the same thing regarding BCS schools. UNI beat Nebraska, Iowa State and USC this year. Not sure how that is falling off..... |
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Post by westvibes on Oct 15, 2017 21:26:03 GMT -5
hartford doesn't care about volleyball and the turnover there is ridiculous, wouldn't be surprised to see more turnover again this year.
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Post by jcvball22 on Oct 15, 2017 22:36:38 GMT -5
Well, correct my logical fallacy. It still doesn't change the preponderance of majors are on the public SUNY side of Cornell, and not the more exclusive private side. These are degree programs they wouldn't have access to at other Ivys, competing in the classroom against student bodies that are not the equivalent of either the private side of Cornell, nor the equivalent of other Ivies. No matter what school they get into, for admission requirements, they still need to meet the Ivy minimum on the AI index in order to play sports. That means grades and test scores in line with Ivy admissions standards. Also, the public side is a draw, as it has majors that the private side and other Ivy's don't offer. |
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Post by slxpress on Oct 16, 2017 5:59:16 GMT -5
I feel like you think I'm saying the students who get into Cornell are dumb. That's not my point. My point is that they overwhelmingly enroll in the Agricultural and Life Sciences because while not necessarily an easy path to a degree, it is easier, and easier to maintain eligibility. When outsiders think of Cornell, they think of the same education someone would get at Princeton, or Penn, or Brown, or Harvard, etc., when these athletes are actually getting a different experience that's the crown jewel of the SUNY system - but still part of the SUNY system.
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 16, 2017 7:02:40 GMT -5
I feel like you think I'm saying the students who get into Cornell are dumb. That's not my point. My point is that they overwhelmingly enroll in the Agricultural and Life Sciences because while not necessarily an easy path to a degree, it is easier, and easier to maintain eligibility. When outsiders think of Cornell, they think of the same education someone would get at Princeton, or Penn, or Brown, or Harvard, etc., when these athletes are actually getting a different experience that's the crown jewel of the SUNY system - but still part of the SUNY system. I think you're vastly overestimating how difficult it is to maintain academic eligibility, even at an Ivy League school. |
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Post by jcvball22 on Oct 16, 2017 11:50:50 GMT -5
I feel like you think I'm saying the students who get into Cornell are dumb. That's not my point. My point is that they overwhelmingly enroll in the Agricultural and Life Sciences because while not necessarily an easy path to a degree, it is easier, and easier to maintain eligibility. When outsiders think of Cornell, they think of the same education someone would get at Princeton, or Penn, or Brown, or Harvard, etc., when these athletes are actually getting a different experience that's the crown jewel of the SUNY system - but still part of the SUNY system. Go peruse the majors in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. There are "easier" majors at all schools, even the Ivy's. |
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Post by Frank Costanza on Oct 16, 2017 12:11:04 GMT -5
Can we get back to the real point of this thread and that’s “Speculation” and assumptions on job openings
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 21:21:26 GMT -5
hearing that the big east will have at least one opening
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 17, 2017 21:21:33 GMT -5
Records are as of 10/17/17. The records of last year, year before, and the current year. I removed anyone hired this year or last year, and I didn't included any of the HBCUs. The list includes anyone in their 3rd year and beyond, the records include 2015, 2016, and 2017. No promising on accuracy, the records were taken from MasseyRatings.com. Only programs with .500 or worse are listed.
In my opinion, the best 5 jobs would be; Oklahoma, St. Marys CA, Houston, San Diego St, and Fresno State.
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