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Post by jcvball22 on Nov 3, 2017 11:12:43 GMT -5
That sucks. Mark is a great guy and I'm sorry it didn't work out for him. I'm trying to understand the reasoning behind firing a coach with only two weeks left in the season. It's not like they're going to get a head start on hiring a replacement. The previous post seems to imply it was to prevent NLIs from being signed for a coach that won't be there. If so, I think that's honorable truthfulness from the administration to the recruits. There has also been nothing posted online (and it's gameday today). It's possible they're letting him finish the season, just not letting the recruits sign NLIs. Lame-ducking the current staff in a way that quickly became public while in-season, and simultaneously screwing whoever they hire by having NO incoming recruits. Sign me up to work for that administration. |
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Post by karellen on Nov 3, 2017 13:37:46 GMT -5
Tom is fine at Akron. Grand Canyon Staff is only in second year (I think), so he is fine also. Re: Akron - That's not what I heard back in September. A lot of stress going into his coaching because word is going around that he has to make something happen or he is gone. Neurotic, paranoia, and definitely playing everything safe and I think his record shows it. 24 wins in 3 seasons, and majority of those wins happening in early September for 2 of the 3 seasons. Last this year in conference, tied for last last year, yada yada. After those facts, karellen how is Tom fine? I am not saying that you are wrong, but there are rumors and facts to back up those rumors so him being on the hot seat not only makes sense, but is 100% a discussion circling in/out of that program. He is only in year three...sometimes these things go the wrong direction as new coach implements new system and recruits players to fit that system. Never said he was not having a difficult year, but I think he will get, and should get another year or two get everything in place the way he wants it. Things do not happen over night. |
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Post by Not Me on Nov 4, 2017 6:36:14 GMT -5
Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi is not a hot bed of volleyball. Add in that they've been through four conferences in about 20 years and an older facility and I think it's tough to come up with an identity. Or at least an identity other than smoking and running at the same time. Memphis gym may be old, but it very good for volleyball. Small, fans relatively close to the action... I always liked it when I was there. As far as other facilities are concerned (home locker room, weight room), I have no idea what kind of shape they may be in. I agree with previous poster about the talent in the not to distant area for coaching. Tennessee is not horrible, not going to get much south and east of campus, but Indiana, Illinois and Texas and places like St Louis and Kansas City are not huge distances. Then Memphis goes and upsets Temple. Is VT now bulletin board material? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 13:54:59 GMT -5
Yes, unfortunately Mark at YSU was let go and not in a very professional way. The administration isn't honoring those verbals, so those kids that have certainly passed on other opportunities are in very undeserved situations. Hopefully, those student-athletes can find other programs still in need of 2018 players at their respective positions. And, hopefully, Mark can find another coaching position at a quality institution because he is a super person and a quality coach. This is garbage. The kids are left holding the bag and that should not be the case. NCAA needs to step in and have an early signing period, theu allow kids to be recruited in 8th grafe and verbal. They need to get a spine and protect the athlete from getting left out in the cold. This is crap and most schools are not honoring verbals when a coaching change is made unless a NLI has already been signed. Unacceptable. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 13:58:15 GMT -5
Tom is fine at Akron. Grand Canyon Staff is only in second year (I think), so he is fine also. Re: Akron - That's not what I heard back in September. A lot of stress going into his coaching because word is going around that he has to make something happen or he is gone. Neurotic, paranoia, and definitely playing everything safe and I think his record shows it. 24 wins in 3 seasons, and majority of those wins happening in early September for 2 of the 3 seasons. Last this year in conference, tied for last last year, yada yada. After those facts, karellen how is Tom fine? I am not saying that you are wrong, but there are rumors and facts to back up those rumors so him being on the hot seat not only makes sense, but is 100% a discussion circling in/out of that program. Um...does Akron know they are Akron? Not exactly a school or location kids grow up wanting to attend. Tom works his butt off. Good luck to Akron finding a coach that will succeed at that place. |
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Post by Semp12 on Nov 4, 2017 15:10:47 GMT -5
Yes, unfortunately Mark at YSU was let go and not in a very professional way. The administration isn't honoring those verbals, so those kids that have certainly passed on other opportunities are in very undeserved situations. Hopefully, those student-athletes can find other programs still in need of 2018 players at their respective positions. And, hopefully, Mark can find another coaching position at a quality institution because he is a super person and a quality coach. This is garbage. The kids are left holding the bag and that should not be the case. NCAA needs to step in and have an early signing period, theu allow kids to be recruited in 8th grafe and verbal. They need to get a spine and protect the athlete from getting left out in the cold. This is crap and most schools are not honoring verbals when a coaching change is made unless a NLI has already been signed. Unacceptable. But then we would complain if a kid signs the NLI, goes there, but doesn't fit the coaches direction so they never play and leave unhappy? Or even worse, they stay, aren't the level the program needs to be at, so the coach gets listed on this thread after a year or two, despite having little opportunity to bring in their own kids (other than the leftover juniors/seniors). There really is no good answer to these situations.. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 16:10:00 GMT -5
This is garbage. The kids are left holding the bag and that should not be the case. NCAA needs to step in and have an early signing period, theu allow kids to be recruited in 8th grafe and verbal. They need to get a spine and protect the athlete from getting left out in the cold. This is crap and most schools are not honoring verbals when a coaching change is made unless a NLI has already been signed. Unacceptable. But then we would complain if a kid signs the NLI, goes there, but doesn't fit the coaches direction so they never play and leave unhappy? Or even worse, they stay, aren't the level the program needs to be at, so the coach gets listed on this thread after a year or two, despite having little opportunity to bring in their own kids (other than the leftover juniors/seniors). There really is no good answer to these situations.. The kid simply gets their release and goes elsewhere. There is a good answer. Allow the kid to attend the school with a scholarship that was extended to them from the university through the coach, or, allow the kid to transfer/leave and go elsewhere. The school should not be in total control over a kids college choice when they decide to make a coaching change. |
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Post by digs4days on Nov 5, 2017 9:00:42 GMT -5
How about University of Toledo..... cannot believe that guy is still there. If he doesn't make the MAC tournament I gotta believe his seat gets hot
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Post by skullied on Nov 5, 2017 10:19:15 GMT -5
What the heck happened at UMBC???
That seat must have went up in flames recently!
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Post by beesknees on Nov 5, 2017 10:54:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 11:09:57 GMT -5
Yes, unfortunately Mark at YSU was let go and not in a very professional way. The administration isn't honoring those verbals, so those kids that have certainly passed on other opportunities are in very undeserved situations. Hopefully, those student-athletes can find other programs still in need of 2018 players at their respective positions. And, hopefully, Mark can find another coaching position at a quality institution because he is a super person and a quality coach. This is garbage. The kids are left holding the bag and that should not be the case. NCAA needs to step in and have an early signing period, theu allow kids to be recruited in 8th grafe and verbal. They need to get a spine and protect the athlete from getting left out in the cold. This is crap and most schools are not honoring verbals when a coaching change is made unless a NLI has already been signed. Unacceptable. Seriously--commit in 8th grade? The only people who like that are club directors, coaches, and their marketing people. If they are going to 'get a spine'--it should be to return to kids being left alone until they were after their sophomore year, then did visits as juniors and committed as seniors. |
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Post by ja on Nov 5, 2017 11:12:08 GMT -5
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Post by trojansc on Nov 5, 2017 12:10:05 GMT -5
Kiselica just graduated this past spring from Temple and is now acting head coach?  |
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Post by karellen on Nov 5, 2017 13:13:51 GMT -5
What the heck happened at UMBC??? That seat must have went up in flames recently! Head coach and 1st assistant were fired immediately on Wednesday (Nov 1) |
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Post by vbnerd on Nov 5, 2017 13:38:27 GMT -5
Yes, unfortunately Mark at YSU was let go and not in a very professional way. The administration isn't honoring those verbals, so those kids that have certainly passed on other opportunities are in very undeserved situations. Hopefully, those student-athletes can find other programs still in need of 2018 players at their respective positions. And, hopefully, Mark can find another coaching position at a quality institution because he is a super person and a quality coach. prepvolleyball and richkern list no committed athletes for Youngstown State. Does anyone want to share who these kids are that are suddenly available? |
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