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Post by ProfessorPlum on Jul 19, 2018 20:12:58 GMT -5
Think Big10 that desperately needs a middle On a side note: Pacific did not have a great season but 4 starters including 3 All WCC Conference players transfer. There has to be a back story here. So is she going to Santa Clara? Or a B1G school like you alluded? I know nothing about her and Santa Clara. I stand by My original post. I guess we will all know very soon. |
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Post by Heisenberg on Jul 19, 2018 20:21:13 GMT -5
So is she going to Santa Clara? Or a B1G school like you alluded? I know nothing about her and Santa Clara. I stand by My original post. I guess we will all know very soon. Were you alluding to Illinois? |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Jul 19, 2018 23:45:13 GMT -5
apples to oranges. One is a small Private Religious School the other is a large public school with roots in agriculture studies, however, it's a world known research university. Hawai'i has a medical school, Oceanography school, Vulcanology degree, the East-West Center for Asian Pacific studies and the only school of Hawaiian Studies in the world. So I guess it depends on your choice of study. Here are the latest world rankings. www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/santa-clara-university US Ranking of 168. No world ranking. www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/university-hawaii-manoa US ranking of 319, world ranking of between 201-250 Volleyball success, well it's debatable, however, a long time ago, Hawai'i did win several national championships. How is their world ranking higher than their US ranking? Simple. www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/methodology-world-university-rankings-2018 |
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Post by brooselee on Jul 19, 2018 23:58:43 GMT -5
Ashlyn is from San Jose so maybe she wants to stay close to home and her choosing Santa Clara have nothing to with university ranking nor being part of a winning program. Santa Clara is a logical choice for her. UH also have a boatload of MBs. We only graduate a walk on and have a 6-3 girl committed for next season. Kind of a logjam in the middle.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Jul 20, 2018 1:27:07 GMT -5
I don't care where this player goes. I was replying to the statement, "Santa Clara degree vs Hawaii degree...no contest". Not sure why anyone would make that comment unless they wanted to throw shade towards UH. I guess that comment was implicating that UH was no match for Santa Clara. As if Santa Clara's degrees are better than Hawai'i's. A degree is a degree, its what you do with it that matters. And again, apples to oranges.
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Post by Heisenberg on Jul 20, 2018 8:15:53 GMT -5
I don't care where this player goes. I was replying to the statement, "Santa Clara degree vs Hawaii degree...no contest". Not sure why anyone would make that comment unless they wanted to throw shade towards UH. I guess that comment was implicating that UH was no match for Santa Clara. As if Santa Clara's degrees are better than Hawai'i's. A degree is a degree, its what you do with it that matters. And again, apples to oranges. I don’t know anything about the academic prowess of either school, so I won’t enter that debate. However, “a degree is a degree” is not a correct statement. There is certainly truth to some degrees being more valuable than others. However, I will concede that this probably works in a tier type system where some are essentially equal, give or take a little bit. I will also concede that sometimes having a connection with alumni plays a role (i.e. person interviewing me went to my school). |
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Post by volleyca on Jul 20, 2018 13:43:43 GMT -5
I don't care where this player goes. I was replying to the statement, "Santa Clara degree vs Hawaii degree...no contest". Not sure why anyone would make that comment unless they wanted to throw shade towards UH. I guess that comment was implicating that UH was no match for Santa Clara. As if Santa Clara's degrees are better than Hawai'i's. A degree is a degree, its what you do with it that matters. And again, apples to oranges. The statement was just giving realness you couldn’t handle |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Jul 20, 2018 14:19:29 GMT -5
I don't care where this player goes. I was replying to the statement, "Santa Clara degree vs Hawaii degree...no contest". Not sure why anyone would make that comment unless they wanted to throw shade towards UH. I guess that comment was implicating that UH was no match for Santa Clara. As if Santa Clara's degrees are better than Hawai'i's. A degree is a degree, its what you do with it that matters. And again, apples to oranges. I don’t know anything about the academic prowess of either school, so I won’t enter that debate. However, “a degree is a degree” is not a correct statement. There is certainly truth to some degrees being more valuable than others. However, I will concede that this probably works in a tier type system where some are essentially equal, give or take a little bit. I will also concede that sometimes having a connection with alumni plays a role (i.e. person interviewing me went to my school). Yup, to the alumni affect. If you live in Hawai'i. UH is THE University to graduate from for most of the local businesses including the state government. As alumni, they unconsciously hire graduates. My boss does. So to that, where you graduate matters to some employers. But the general point I was subtly making was that when the poster said that the player was going to Santa Clara over UH because of its degrees is not only pointless but shady AF. I guess you have to belittle one institution over another just to feel superior. And if was a joke, it was not cool. |
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Post by noblesol on Jul 20, 2018 17:05:41 GMT -5
I can't count the number of resumes I've read. But, I can say how much of a factor the school granting a degree counted for in my decisions. Almost none. Recent experience, and respected recommendations are always relevant. School granting the degree? Don't much care. I've known individuals with GEDs that were more productive and trusted than respected college grads. I'm sure we all have similar experiences. Having seen many UH grads, I'd rate them no better no worse than grads I've seen from hundreds of other four year schools. But, I can honestly say I've never knowingly come across a Santa Clara grad. Maybe they are the exception.
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Post by bayarea on Jul 20, 2018 17:20:08 GMT -5
The whole last page of university discussion is pretty moot, as I believe all of the Pacific transfers were banned from transferring within the WCC or other schools on their pre-conference schedule.
Also found fascinating, again, the official account of the reasons for the transfers, as it sounded dictated directly from the head coach, but then I’m perplexed since he would know they couldn’t transfer within the WCC.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Jul 20, 2018 19:27:11 GMT -5
The whole last page of university discussion is pretty moot, as I believe all of the Pacific transfers were banned from transferring within the WCC or other schools on their pre-conference schedule. Also found fascinating, again, the official account of the reasons for the transfers, as it sounded dictated directly from the head coach, but then I’m perplexed since he would know they couldn’t transfer within the WCC. Anyone know if the recent NCAA rule which now allows players to transfer anywhere AND get a scholarship affected volleyball players? This mention of banning transfers within WCC made me wonder. I know that the rule was meant to address limitations in transfers for football and basketball players. Would this rule free players to transfer within WCC? I know they threw in an exception that says that this lifting of the rules would not override league rules.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jul 20, 2018 22:33:19 GMT -5
I can't count the number of resumes I've read. But, I can say how much of a factor the school granting a degree counted for in my decisions. Almost none. Recent experience, and respected recommendations are always relevant. School granting the degree? Don't much care. I've known individuals with GEDs that were more productive and trusted than respected college grads. I'm sure we all have similar experiences. Having seen many UH grads, I'd rate them no better no worse than grads I've seen from hundreds of other four year schools. But, I can honestly say I've never knowingly come across a Santa Clara grad. Maybe they are the exception. I graduated from Joe's HVAC and Refrigerator Repair Technology Institute and I've done quite well for myself. |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Jul 20, 2018 22:47:10 GMT -5
I don't care where this player goes. I was replying to the statement, "Santa Clara degree vs Hawaii degree...no contest". Not sure why anyone would make that comment unless they wanted to throw shade towards UH. I guess that comment was implicating that UH was no match for Santa Clara. As if Santa Clara's degrees are better than Hawai'i's. A degree is a degree, its what you do with it that matters. And again, apples to oranges. The statement was just giving realness you couldn’t handle Lol. Delusional, nope. Whatever you say. Shady is as shady does. |
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Post by volleyca on Jul 21, 2018 1:03:19 GMT -5
The statement was just giving realness you couldn’t handle Lol. Delusional, nope. Whatever you say. Shady is as shady does. Call it shady or realness. Boo it is what it is |
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Post by raian13 on Jul 21, 2018 3:09:48 GMT -5
Lol. Delusional, nope. Whatever you say. Shady is as shady does. Call it shady or realness. Boo it is what it is I guess one athlete would settle for mediocre VB program if they consider their professional career in the long run. If you are not an exceptional player with potential NT skills, then you degree matters more to you. That’s the real ness that you’re referring to. |
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