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Post by mcmike on Dec 5, 2018 2:07:29 GMT -5
while looking for some Oregon VB on youtube the top 40 plays of the year in the B1G popped up.
some savory tidbits while we wait for Friday
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Post by mplssetter on Dec 7, 2018 19:26:20 GMT -5
Well, now what? Even with the home court "advantage" and probably the most athletic team they've ever had, along with the best setter they've had and still can't win the championship... So what's it gonna take to win it all?
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Post by haze on Dec 7, 2018 19:33:40 GMT -5
I really hate to say this. COach McCutcheon is one of my favorite coaches in any sport. But do you start wondering now if he is one of those coaches who doesn't have teams play big in the biggest moments of the year?
I feel bad for them, it's a tough heartbreaking loss. But if you're an elite level team that has basically a hometown advantage all the way to the Championship game, and on that way is a payback game against a team that beat you earlier that you felt you shouldn't have lost, you cannot lose that game. Period.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 19:37:15 GMT -5
Hugh is doing a hell of a job on the recruiting trail. You don't have to have a player the caliber of SSS to win it all. What's it going to take? For starters, a better draw. Minnesota didn't get any breaks with how the bracket was put together. You ended up with a really talented seeded Oregon team while Illinois got a seeded, and solid, but less talented team in Marquette. Hell, you would've been much better off with Nebraska's draw.
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Post by mplssetter on Dec 7, 2018 19:39:11 GMT -5
Shoulda won it in 2004 when they had the chance.
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Post by haze on Dec 7, 2018 19:50:39 GMT -5
Good strong teams/program don't worry about the draw. They attack it because they know they are the better team and it doesn't matter who they play. If Minnesota had a really strong season who didn't win one of the better conferences and finished the season ranked 10th and was something like 22-8, matchups come into play. But they proved they were arguably one of the best teams pretty much all year and in their conference run. There should have been no issue with their matchup against Oregon.
Oregon played well, but IMO this is just a really bad loss and you have to wonder if some question marks are coming out.
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Post by huskerjen on Dec 7, 2018 19:56:11 GMT -5
I really hate to say this. COach McCutcheon is one of my favorite coaches in any sport. But do you start wondering now if he is one of those coaches who doesn't have teams play big in the biggest moments of the year? I feel bad for them, it's a tough heartbreaking loss. But if you're an elite level team that has basically a hometown advantage all the way to the Championship game, and on that way is a payback game against a team that beat you earlier that you felt you shouldn't have lost, you cannot lose that game. Period. It may be coincidence, but Minnesota seems to peak early under Hugh. They didn't necessarily fade this year like they did in 2017, but they were playing sloppier down the stretch. I think Hugh's conservative nature can bite the team at times. He must've thought they were decidedly better than Oregon given how they served in the first two sets. It's like he thought Oregon could be in system and pose no threat. |
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Post by ilikecorn on Dec 7, 2018 20:01:10 GMT -5
Congratulations to Minnesota on a great season...I wish they could have played Nebraska for a chance at a Final Four berth, but such is life. I feel for the Seniors, especially Sam. But the end of something is always a beginning for something else  |
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Post by vbkahuna on Dec 7, 2018 20:02:53 GMT -5
MN has a truly great team and had a great season, so hats off to them for that. But the one thing I would seriously question is Hugh's persistence in starting with a very conservative serving strategy. Yes, it worked well enough during the regular season, and should work against most team given the superior athletic trainer of his players, but in a playoff tournament, it can be defeated by a hot team with good passers and a good setter who can run a fast tempo offense. And that's exactly what happened.
And you can't just amp up your serving for a single match. It doesn't work that way. Your servers have to already be in the groove.
Sometimes being conservative gets you there... But doesn't get you all the way.
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Post by mplssetter on Dec 7, 2018 20:08:47 GMT -5
So is Taylor Landfair going to be a game changer? Will she carry an elite team to a FF? Is she good when the season is on the line? I haven't seen her play enough to know.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 20:15:32 GMT -5
Good strong teams/program don't worry about the draw. They attack it because they know they are the better team and it doesn't matter who they play. If Minnesota had a really strong season who didn't win one of the better conferences and finished the season ranked 10th and was something like 22-8, matchups come into play. But they proved they were arguably one of the best teams pretty much all year and in their conference run. There should have been no issue with their matchup against Oregon. Oregon played well, but IMO this is just a really bad loss and you have to wonder if some question marks are coming out. I assume the result is still raw. But, if you think matchups don't matter in sports I don't know what to tell you. There are always teams that are bad matchups for others. Oregon was a bad matchup for Minnesota. The Gophers would still be playing if they played just about anyone else today. I believe that would include Illinois, Nebraska, Wisconsin, BYU, Florida, Michigan, Texas, and PSU. |
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Post by haze on Dec 7, 2018 20:19:15 GMT -5
So what does Oregon have that none of the other top 10 programs who couldn't beat Minnesota have?
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Post by haze on Dec 7, 2018 20:20:37 GMT -5
So is Taylor Landfair going to be a game changer? Will she carry an elite team to a FF? Is she good when the season is on the line? I haven't seen her play enough to know. That's a good question. Does she play next year? I think the only concern is a setter. |
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 7, 2018 20:22:47 GMT -5
So what does Oregon have that none of the other top 10 programs who couldn't beat Minnesota have? Tempo (or Spastic Raskie as I like to call it.) |
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Post by staticb on Dec 7, 2018 20:33:14 GMT -5
So what does Oregon have that none of the other top 10 programs who couldn't beat Minnesota have? Tempo (or Spastic Raskie as I like to call it.) Yes, their style is so high risk and high reward. (They are a little safer than before though) They also flame out a lot of the NCAA's because they are trying to force tempo and the games snowball in on them. A lot of the good programs rely on safer offenses and just utilize their talent to beat you. |
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