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Post by ngc9494 on Dec 16, 2017 20:04:41 GMT -5
Now that Texas has a new Athletic Director who is in charge of both Men's and Women's teams, I would hope Chris Del Conte would be very diligent in finding a replacement that could match Jerritt's success if he were to leave. If anything were to happen (I highly doubt it will), I would trust Del Conte to find the best coach there is. He is second to none as an AD. |
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 16, 2017 21:11:56 GMT -5
He isn’t leaving Texas.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 16, 2017 21:13:49 GMT -5
Are you talking about the first or second contact? First contact cannot be called a double and second contact has more to do with the player than the coach I would think. First I want to congratulate Catherine for her Honorable Mention as an All American. Was asked "Are you talking about the first or second contact?" Both! I do believe that a double touch can be called on a first touch. Rule 14.4.3 Prolonged Contact: It is a fault when a player does not hit the ball cleanly. All exceptions including first touches allow for prolonged contact rule. 14.2.2 If my memory serves me well, this happened in the Nebraska Penn State game on Thursday. Karch commented on it. He stated that it's not commonly called and the coaches are usually OK with it as long as the referee is consistent with the call. Regardless of that, the point being that the overhand dig is being frequently and successfully utilized by the better defenses in division 1. It seems Micaya had a green light and did use the overhand. I have only one other suggestion that they may have used to improve. The overhand dig though would have been first on my wish list for this years team. It may be wise to think ahead and assess the possibilities for the 2018 team. A double cannot be called on the first contact if the player has made one motion to play the ball. Two distinct motions is not allowed, nor is a lift/carry/throw. |
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Post by dodger on Dec 16, 2017 22:03:56 GMT -5
There can not be a "dbl" contact called on the first attempt to play the ball; if it appears that a dbl. contact was called on the first contact; it was in actuality called on the second contact by the same player who made the first contact! Easy example: attacker attacks ball and then plays ball after it appears to hit block but is called for 2 contacts; which means; the attack did not touch the block, it never cleared net; there fore you do not call 4 hits you call a double. It looks like a double on first contact call but it is not. If a different player had covered this attack(passed) it would have been a 4 contact call by the official.
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Post by southie on Dec 17, 2017 0:06:47 GMT -5
Going to USC to coach in front of 500 fans instead of 4,000 fans would be a huge advantage . . .
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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 17, 2017 11:16:27 GMT -5
Going to USC to coach in front of 500 fans instead of 4,000 fans would be a huge advantage . . . Well, maybe....an exaggeration....I heard that FL had "700 fans" or so at games, but the stats don't really show it. Poking around on the NCAA web site, I eventually found the page under statistics for attendance. I would give the link here, but what's shown on my browser (link) isn't what you actually see. So here's a screenshot.  The interesting thing is the Louisville "percentage capacity". Me-thinks this data is skewed else the fire marshal is missing. I would like to...improve Gregory, but unsure how without losing it's court advantage for our team. Friends of mine had friends who moved from Austin to the East coast and their daughter ended playing for Fairfield when they came down to the Austin regional. They had tickets in the parent section, which is in those pullout bleachers right next to the court. They said "no thank you" and got different seats because they felt they would have players diving into them going for a ball (which sometimes happens). I LOVE that about Gregory, and so do the players as well. |
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Post by szandana on Dec 17, 2017 12:00:12 GMT -5
First I want to congratulate Catherine for her Honorable Mention as an All American. Was asked "Are you talking about the first or second contact?" Both! I do believe that a double touch can be called on a first touch. Rule 14.4.3 Prolonged Contact: It is a fault when a player does not hit the ball cleanly. All exceptions including first touches allow for prolonged contact rule. 14.2.2 If my memory serves me well, this happened in the Nebraska Penn State game on Thursday. Karch commented on it. He stated that it's not commonly called and the coaches are usually OK with it as long as the referee is consistent with the call. Regardless of that, the point being that the overhand dig is being frequently and successfully utilized by the better defenses in division 1. It seems Micaya had a green light and did use the overhand. I have only one other suggestion that they may have used to improve. The overhand dig though would have been first on my wish list for this years team. It may be wise to think ahead and assess the possibilities for the 2018 team. A double cannot be called on the first contact if the player has made one motion to play the ball. Two distinct motions is not allowed, nor is a lift/carry/throw. Here is what I was talking about and then the rules as written by the NCAA for 2017. The tiniest part of my original post was meant to illustrate that the overhand dig is more likely to get faulted by the referee. The underhand dig is very safe rules wise. Extremely likely to be considered illegal. 2016 AND 2017 NCAA WOMEN’S VOLLEYBALL RULES AND INTERPRETATIONS: Ball Handling Directive Guidelines: • A player in good position must play the ball without discernible double contact. 14.4.4 Double Contact It is a fault when a player contacts the ball twice in succession, or the ball contacts various parts of the body successively. 14.2.3.1 During blocking or during the team’s first hit, successive contacts with various parts of the player’s body are permitted in a single attempt to play the ball. Prolonged contact is a fault in these actions.
14.4.3 Prolonged Contact It is a fault when a player does not hit the ball cleanly. (See Rule 14.2.2.) 14.2.2 The ball must be hit cleanly and not caught or thrown. Prolonged contact with the ball is a fault. The ball can rebound in any direction. End NCAA rules and interpretations. 14.4.3 Prolonged contact supersedes what some consider a first touch safe zone. That over hand dig certainly can cost you a point. Much like Mr. Elliott's risk and reward service. IMO it's well worth the risk. Practice it, get comfortable with it and the team will run it's offense faster and stay in system more often. Does not seem that prolonged contact is a review-able situation. Note: NCAA rules are debatable and arguable. Coaches and referees squabble over the semantics all the time. |
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Post by szandana on Dec 17, 2017 17:41:29 GMT -5
Regarding Mr. Elliott.
If Texas can keep all of this years new arrivals, would it be a inadvisable to change horses mid stream?
Then, this may be the perfect time to look outside the box and Texas is in a box. What starts here changes the world. Umm.. not so much in the volleyball world. So now, Texas with it's perpetual claims of diversity gathers their wits and doubles down on their slogan.
Yes, you heard it here first. It's time! Step 1. Buy out Mr. Elliott's contract. Step 2. Fire him and give him a lovely parting gift. I promise to make a donation. Step 3. Make a ten year offer to Salima Rockwell Davidson that she will not refuse. Wow, even the Ashley haters will like it.
The previous was written with little bit of tongue in cheek. A little bit.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 18, 2017 0:40:16 GMT -5
Going to USC to coach in front of 500 fans instead of 4,000 fans would be a huge advantage . . . Well, maybe....an exaggeration Averages can be deceiving. 6000 fans for one match then 500 500 500 500 500 Avg = 1400 Plus the graphic mentions the PAC-13, which makes me doubt it credibility. I would not have expected USC to be that high sadly. |
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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 18, 2017 8:07:59 GMT -5
Well, maybe....an exaggeration Averages can be deceiving. 6000 fans for one match then 500 500 500 500 500 Avg = 1400 Plus the graphic mentions the PAC-13, which makes me doubt it credibility. I would not have expected USC to be that high sadly.  Didn't even notice the Pac-13! Wait, did Texas finally bail on the Big 12 and join? I wish. |
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Post by szandana on Dec 22, 2017 15:00:09 GMT -5
My volleyball fantasy story of the century seems to have fallen through. Former Longhorn coach Salima Rockwell announced her retirement today. It was only five days ago that I dreamed of her replacing Mr. Elliott and for that matter Mr. Sullivan.
Don't think there is another coach available that would be such an excellent fit for the Longhorns. Am sure the girls would have loved her.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 22, 2017 15:03:29 GMT -5
My volleyball fantasy story of the century seems to have fallen through. Former Longhorn coach Salima Rockwell announced her retirement today. It was only five days ago that I dreamed of her replacing Mr. Elliott and for that matter Mr. Sullivan. Don't think there is another coach available that would have been such an excellent fit for the Longhorns. Am sure the girls would have loved her. Wait, What?!? I thought she left Austin to go back to be coach-in-waiting for when Rose retired? Maybe he'll never give it up and she decided to quit waiting. |
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Post by szandana on Dec 22, 2017 15:07:37 GMT -5
Seems it was sort of a family decision kinda thing. Think she is just finishing up her time with the NCAA rules committee too.
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Post by mln59 on Dec 22, 2017 20:00:46 GMT -5
so i can find the thread laterz
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Post by szandana on Dec 22, 2017 22:33:27 GMT -5
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Didn't even notice the Pac-13! Wait, did Texas finally bail on the Big 12 and join? I wish.