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Post by southie on Jan 21, 2018 19:51:48 GMT -5
I remember watching Cat McCoy when she was in her last year at TAV. She picked up everything on her side of the court. Also watched Olivia Zelon and Mary Lake during the years. The two best liberos in SCVA. Mary went on and is still playing her game. Olivia played with so much fire and was a fan favorite. She made you want to get on the court and play with her. Even standing on the sidelines all season she made it look fun. I advocated from mid season that Texas use the depth they were blessed with. The failure to use Olivia may have been Mr. Elliott's greatest folly. Had Olivia not been such a joy to watch on the sidelines, I would have felt cheated. Thank you Olivia! Best wishes for your future. Who the hell cares what Olivia did on the sidelines? Early in 2016 you were touting the play of Claire Hahn and Autumun Rounsaville. A year later you turned your back on them and started pimping a player who didn't even see the court. |
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Post by Factometer on Jan 21, 2018 21:17:10 GMT -5
I advocated from mid season that Texas use the depth they were blessed with. The failure to use Olivia may have been Mr. Elliott's greatest folly. Had Olivia not been such a joy to watch on the sidelines, I would have felt cheated. Thank you Olivia! Best wishes for your future. Who the hell cares what Olivia did on the sidelines? Early in 2016 you were touting the play of Claire Hahn and Autumun Rounsaville. A year later you turned your back on them and started pimping a player who didn't even see the court. Yep, you're real judge of talent yourself Southie. You've been wrong just about every season. |
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Post by texasex01 on Jan 21, 2018 22:27:52 GMT -5
I still believe that if Olivia were playing at a level where she could have contributed to the team last year, she would have seen the court...especially with how inconsistent Rounsaville and Hahn played this past season.
If history shows anything, freshmen DS's will see the court over an 'experienced' player in the program. For example:
2016 - FR Rounsaville and Hahn would start over SO Beard and Gilbert, and JR Palladino
2015 - FR Lauren Beard played over SO Palladino, until Dalton was healthy enough to start
2014 - FR Cat McCoy started over JR Kat Brooks for the libero position
2013 - No incoming FR DS's came in
2012 - FR Kat Brooks and Nicole Dalton started over JR Megan Futch
2011 - No incoming FR DS's came in
2010 - FR Sarah Palmer played over JR Sydney Yogi and SO Cristina Arenas
2009 - No incoming FR DS's started
2008 - FR Sydney Yogi started over SR Hall and SO Klein and Lewis
...And my point being is that freshmen DS's will see the court if they can contribute....
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Post by texasex01 on Jan 21, 2018 22:59:55 GMT -5
I'm excited what the new season can bring. We have a really small squad in spring, which means more pressure on the player to develop on their skills. Jerritt has a lot of work to do like year in and year out but this year we are losing 6 players and that's a lot. I agree... The only good thing with all the DS's leaving is that it will give Micaya and Lexi more reps in serve-receive passing all 6 rotations and more opportunities to develop their floor defense in position 6... as well as give Yaazie an opportunity to develop her back row defense in position 1 instead of being subbed out. It'd be interesting to see if Yaazie can develop a back row attack hitting a D ball. I'd also like to see Orie cross-trained to the pins to provide some depth. Morgan and Brionne will be holding down the MB position next year with Asjia and Blair backing them up. I think Shook will get better with her location and timing with all her hitters with an off-season of practice under her belt. Rounsaville and Hahn will battle it out for the libero position until Petersen and Gabriel make it to campus...and hopefully the staff is still working to get a libero transfer. I thought I read that the NCAA no longer has limits to how far teams can travel for spring ball games. If so, I hope Texas chooses to play tougher teams in the Big/Pac this spring. It always seems to me that the level of spring competition has been a huge drop-off from what they play during the season. I know the team alternates every 2 years from either spring training in Hawaii and summer training in Europe. Does anyone know which one they will be doing this off-season? |
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Post by szandana on Jan 21, 2018 23:01:45 GMT -5
I advocated from mid season that Texas use the depth they were blessed with. The failure to use Olivia may have been Mr. Elliott's greatest folly. Had Olivia not been such a joy to watch on the sidelines, I would have felt cheated. Thank you Olivia! Best wishes for your future. Who the hell cares what Olivia did on the sidelines? Early in 2016 you were touting the play of Claire Hahn and Autumun Rounsaville. A year later you turned your back on them and started pimping a player who didn't even see the court. I think my first post on VT was in mid December 2016. I expressed surprise that Autumn replaced Clair. She could not handle the speed of the hitters. Neither could consistently. But then she did get her famous rolling dig against BYU. That's about the extent of my touting Autumn. I still give some credit to Clair when due. Good sets! but had the same problem adjusting to the div 1 speed. She had a good game and an excellent game this past year. Still, neither of these 2 players should have started the Stanford game this year. Olivia and company on the the sidelines gathered considerable notice. How could you have missed all of the commentary? Then the cheers for Natalie when she came in. There was much thirst to see Olivia take the court too. It just never happened. So the Texas back court boondoggle continued. Might this be pause for future defensive specialists who might consider playing volleyball at Texas? Lack of playing time is one of the top reasons for regret and transfer out of a program. |
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Post by texasex01 on Jan 21, 2018 23:14:19 GMT -5
Might this be pause for future defensive specialists who might consider playing volleyball at Texas? Lack of playing time is one of the top reasons for regret and transfer out of a program. I think lack of playing time is going to be a problem with any program. I mean, look at Penn State's roster...they had 7 DS's. The girls who stay will put in the work to earn playing time, others will stay for the camaraderie and to be part of their university, and others will realize that their volleyball career is coming to an end and want to focus on the next chapter of their lives. For each player that chooses to leave, their reason will be different. |
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Post by szandana on Jan 21, 2018 23:56:13 GMT -5
Might this be pause for future defensive specialists who might consider playing volleyball at Texas? Lack of playing time is one of the top reasons for regret and transfer out of a program. I think lack of playing time is going to be a problem with any program. I mean, look at Penn State's roster...they had 7 DS's. The girls who stay will put in the work to earn playing time, others will stay for the camaraderie and to be part of their university, and others will realize that their volleyball career is coming to an end and want to focus on the next chapter of their lives. For each player that chooses to leave, their reason will be different. I did not loosely make that statement regarding causes for transfers. Probably find it in the NCAA new rules section. They asked....... Rationale: “Current transfer data reveals that playing time, unmet expectations and “issues with coaches” are the most cited reasons when a student-athlete transfers. With that information do you thing it might cause pause for some recruits? If I were a high quality, DS and I saw a previous DS with excellent credentials get no playing time on a team desperate for a quality back row players, I would not consider them. Olivia is quite well known and news travels fast. |
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Post by emgirlbeach on Jan 22, 2018 1:08:54 GMT -5
I think lack of playing time is going to be a problem with any program. I mean, look at Penn State's roster...they had 7 DS's. The girls who stay will put in the work to earn playing time, others will stay for the camaraderie and to be part of their university, and others will realize that their volleyball career is coming to an end and want to focus on the next chapter of their lives. For each player that chooses to leave, their reason will be different. I did not loosely make that statement regarding causes for transfers. Probably find it in the NCAA new rules section. They asked....... Rationale: “Current transfer data reveals that playing time, unmet expectations and “issues with coaches” are the most cited reasons when a student-athlete transfers. With that information do you thing it might cause pause for some recruits? If I were a high quality, DS and I saw a previous DS with excellent credentials get no playing time on a team desperate for a quality back row players, I would not consider them. Olivia is quite well known and news travels fast. I just wonder how so many talented back row players come to Texas and they don't play as well as they did earlier in their career. I saw it with Cat McCoy. I'm sure that Autumn, Natalie and Claire were quality back row players when they played club too. They would not be recruited to Texas if they weren't. Other teams have had success with their back row players moving up to the college level. Look at Mary Lake at BYU! She was an excellent club player and even better college libero. Caroline Knop, Zana Muno just to name a few. They are exciting to watch and bring energy to the court. Many posters talk trash about these young women on a daily basis. I don't believe it's their fault. I think it's the coaching and system that Texas has in place. If I were a high quality libero I would think twice about coming to Texas. |
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Post by Vacation on Jan 22, 2018 1:13:01 GMT -5
Yeah, Cat McCoy really underachieved. Who cares that she holds the all-time digs record for the school, she was obviously better as a high school player. Anybody can see that, and she deserves to have to read these opinions stated about her work ethic and development.
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Post by longhorn9214 on Jan 22, 2018 9:40:15 GMT -5
Everybody just hates Texas.
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Post by flatcityfan on Jan 22, 2018 10:07:24 GMT -5
The topic of Longhorn player development is a recurring theme in this thread. Inevitably, a poster will make a negative comment about Elliott's ability to develop talent, and immediately another poster will have a cow and make snide remarks about how Elliott's considerable accomplishments don't reflect a lack of development.
Is it possible to delve into this deeper without the seemingly requisite response?
Can someone with inside knowledge tell me how the general coaching hierarchy works specifically at Texas? What are Jerritt's, Tonya's, and Erik's roles in terms of how players are taught? What are their roles in general? What is the area of expertise for each? Are there others in staff that figure prominently in the process that I haven't named? Who specifically works with the defensive players?
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Post by longhorn9214 on Jan 22, 2018 10:33:47 GMT -5
The topic of Longhorn player development is a recurring theme in this thread. Inevitably, a poster will make a negative comment about Elliott's ability to develop talent, and immediately another poster will have a cow and make snide remarks about how Elliott's considerable accomplishments don't reflect a lack of development. Is it possible to delve into this deeper without the seemingly requisite response? Can someone with inside knowledge tell me how the general coaching hierarchy works specifically at Texas? What are Jerritt's, Tonya's, and Erik's roles in terms of how players are taught? What are their roles in general? What is the area of expertise for each? Are there others in staff that figure prominently in the process that I haven't named? Who specifically works with the defensive players? Exactly. There's other programs that don't develop players well but it seems Texas always gets the most attention. |
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Post by bigfan on Jan 22, 2018 13:21:36 GMT -5
Poor Sun....... she needs a better program to develop in. Lexi is beloved by her team-mates and coaching staff. |
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Post by bigfan on Jan 22, 2018 13:25:33 GMT -5
I imagine SC will recruit her sooner or later USC seems to be taking a vacation on recruiting. |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Jan 22, 2018 13:34:49 GMT -5
I imagine SC will recruit her sooner or later USC seems to be taking a vacation on recruiting. I’m sorry but What is the big deal about USC? Why does everyone think USC is a better option for Lexi and why would she want to transfer there when she has a for sure starting spot at Texas? |
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