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Post by superfan1 on Dec 19, 2017 18:39:31 GMT -5
So you will have three setters on the roster and the incoming freshman will beat out the two that took the team to finals and if it will be a down year possibly use up one year of her eligibility ? Maybe I see this differently than a lot of people but with the amount of freshman already playing wouldn't you want some stability? Who is the back up for younger sis the following year ?? I doubt Huskey would stay if close to graduation to sit bench her senior year I agree with you on the stability. I think it should stay 5-2 this year with Allie and Huskey. Guess it just depends how well Hall/Warner can pass or how well Hammons can hit. Only so many subs, ya know? Also, like I said earlier, something to consider about the advantage of having THE SAME EXACT LINEUP 2 YEARS IN A ROW. So, let's not rule Marlie out in a 5-1 or 5-2. But, if Huskey can continue improving, she can really be a force with her blocking. If that happens, I'm ok with M. Monserez taking lead of the team in 2020 as a RS Soph, like Allie did. There could also be a 5-2 in 2019 with Huskey and Marlie. By that time, I expect us to have three 6 rotation caliber players on the pins. If and this is a big if, MM is a better setter than Huskey or AM, I think Wise should play her. Consistency was lacking from the setter position this season, but with another offseason under their belts, I'm sure Huskey and AM will come back stronger. |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 21, 2017 12:36:44 GMT -5
So you will have three setters on the roster and the incoming freshman will beat out the two that took the team to finals and if it will be a down year possibly use up one year of her eligibility ? Maybe I see this differently than a lot of people but with the amount of freshman already playing wouldn't you want some stability? Who is the back up for younger sis the following year ?? I doubt Huskey would stay if close to graduation to sit bench her senior year I agree with you on the stability. I think it should stay 5-2 this year with Allie and Huskey. Guess it just depends how well Hall/Warner can pass or how well Hammons can hit. Only so many subs, ya know? Also, like I said earlier, something to consider about the advantage of having THE SAME EXACT LINEUP 2 YEARS IN A ROW. So, let's not rule Marlie out in a 5-1 or 5-2. But, if Huskey can continue improving, she can really be a force with her blocking. If that happens, I'm ok with M. Monserez taking lead of the team in 2020 as a RS Soph, like Allie did. There could also be a 5-2 in 2019 with Huskey and Marlie. By that time, I expect us to have three 6 rotation caliber players on the pins. What really upsets me about this 5-2 is the extra substitution. There were a few times this year when Huskey had to serve and set from the back row because they were out of subs. Not that this is the end of the world, but I really wonder how good Huskey's passing is at 6'2. All in all, I'm sure we'll run the same thing next year and I expect Huskey's location to improve (but it's that decision making that needs to improve the most). I'd LOVE for Warner to play all the way around. It would be a nice OOS D-set to give us another offensive option. I just don't know if Mary wants to put that kind of pressure on her just yet. We really need Hammons blocking and hitting to improve so we can save a substitution there as well.
I really want Marlie to be the 5-1 setter from here until she graduates so Hammons, Hall and Warner can have the same (in-game) setter for the next 3-4 years but it just makes sense to redshirt her. But if she doesn't sacrifice too much in terms of blocking and is a decent passer, it wouldn't surprise me to see a 5-1...(but it would surprise me). God knows I really don't want to see a 5-2 with Marlie and Cheyenne...ever.
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 21, 2017 13:13:59 GMT -5
On somewhat of an unrelated note, I was just made aware of how many of Mary Wise's former assistants and players are coaching in other places.
Taylor Unroe - Assistant Coach at High Point University
Amber McCray - Head Coach at Panola College
Benavia Jenkins - Assistant Coach at University of South Florida
Mackenzie Dagostino - Head Coach at Berkeley Prep (High School)
...among others.
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Post by sevb on Dec 21, 2017 13:16:53 GMT -5
Thats all you could come up with?
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 21, 2017 13:21:50 GMT -5
Thats all you could come up with? Those are some of the bigger names that most people would recognize. I did say "among others".
The rest of the list is at the bottom of this page.
Former Players and Assistants
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Post by curiousvolleyballdad on Dec 21, 2017 13:40:31 GMT -5
I agree with you on the stability. I think it should stay 5-2 this year with Allie and Huskey. Guess it just depends how well Hall/Warner can pass or how well Hammons can hit. Only so many subs, ya know? Also, like I said earlier, something to consider about the advantage of having THE SAME EXACT LINEUP 2 YEARS IN A ROW. So, let's not rule Marlie out in a 5-1 or 5-2. But, if Huskey can continue improving, she can really be a force with her blocking. If that happens, I'm ok with M. Monserez taking lead of the team in 2020 as a RS Soph, like Allie did. There could also be a 5-2 in 2019 with Huskey and Marlie. By that time, I expect us to have three 6 rotation caliber players on the pins. What really upsets me about this 5-2 is the extra substitution. There were a few times this year when Huskey had to serve and set from the back row because they were out of subs. Not that this is the end of the world, but I really wonder how good Huskey's passing is at 6'2. All in all, I'm sure we'll run the same thing next year and I expect Huskey's location to improve (but it's that decision making that needs to improve the most). I'd LOVE for Warner to play all the way around. It would be a nice OOS D-set to give us another offensive option. I just don't know if Mary wants to put that kind of pressure on her just yet. We really need Hammons blocking and hitting to improve so we can save a substitution there as well.
I really want Marlie to be the 5-1 setter from here until she graduates so Hammons, Hall and Warner can have the same (in-game) setter for the next 3-4 years but it just makes sense to redshirt her. But if she doesn't sacrifice too much in terms of blocking and is a decent passer, it wouldn't surprise me to see a 5-1...(but it would surprise me). God knows I really don't want to see a 5-2 with Marlie and Cheyenne...ever.
I see M. Monserez as a spitting image of her sister but obviously taller which will make her a better blocker like Huskey. That is a great combination. |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 21, 2017 14:37:42 GMT -5
I agree with you on the stability. I think it should stay 5-2 this year with Allie and Huskey. Guess it just depends how well Hall/Warner can pass or how well Hammons can hit. Only so many subs, ya know? Also, like I said earlier, something to consider about the advantage of having THE SAME EXACT LINEUP 2 YEARS IN A ROW. So, let's not rule Marlie out in a 5-1 or 5-2. But, if Huskey can continue improving, she can really be a force with her blocking. If that happens, I'm ok with M. Monserez taking lead of the team in 2020 as a RS Soph, like Allie did. There could also be a 5-2 in 2019 with Huskey and Marlie. By that time, I expect us to have three 6 rotation caliber players on the pins. If and this is a big if, MM is a better setter than Huskey or AM, I think Wise should play her. Consistency was lacking from the setter position this season, but with another offseason under their belts, I'm sure Huskey and AM will come back stronger. If there's one thing Mary Wise has shown, it's that she values experience over potential (which I really disagree with at times). Marlie is absolutely the setter of the future for Florida but she'll have to be exceptional in the off-season to unseat Allie, who will be a senior. |
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Post by liquid running on Dec 21, 2017 16:53:02 GMT -5
If and this is a big if, MM is a better setter than Huskey or AM, I think Wise should play her. Consistency was lacking from the setter position this season, but with another offseason under their belts, I'm sure Huskey and AM will come back stronger. If there's one thing Mary Wise has shown, it's that she values experience over potential (which I really disagree with at times). Marlie is absolutely the setter of the future for Florida but she'll have to be exceptional in the off-season to unseat Allie, who will be a senior. Well, she sure didn't value Moscovic's experience. I kind of think she got sucked into the bright, shiny hype on McGinnis. Allie is not as good a setter as Moscovic was, so I can easily see Mary going with Marlie if she believes Marlie can handle it. |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 21, 2017 17:15:14 GMT -5
If there's one thing Mary Wise has shown, it's that she values experience over potential (which I really disagree with at times). Marlie is absolutely the setter of the future for Florida but she'll have to be exceptional in the off-season to unseat Allie, who will be a senior. Well, she sure didn't value Moscovic's experience. I kind of think she got sucked into the bright, shiny hype on McGinnis. Allie is not as good a setter as Moscovic was, so I can easily see Mary going with Marlie if she believes Marlie can handle it. I wasn't referring to Moscovic as for as the experience thing. I really, really hope Marlie can handle it. The team overall would be better with one setter.
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Post by Wjordan078 on Dec 21, 2017 20:46:41 GMT -5
One reason i think Florida remains in the 5-2 is Huskey's blocking alone. You'd assume that Wise and Dave are considering the amount of points Florida loses from Alhassan's blocking. MM is going to have to be spectacular setting and blocking to persuade Wise to go away from the 5-2. Wise routinely talks about how blocking is one of the skills that freshman take longer to catch on. By losing Alhassan, Joseph, and even Snyder (to some degree) on the front row, I just think that's just too much blocking experience lost to seat Huskey. She'll also have the spring to improve on her location and will arguably be the best blocker on the team. All the other positions, Thayer, the rating OH2s, DK, and Haley are all unproven. But who knows, the freshman could be surprisingly good at blocking and the others could improve.
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 22, 2017 15:11:38 GMT -5
How good are these incoming freshmen? Gonna try to throw some videos together for you.
Here's one of Haley Warner last year. (Ozark 17-1/#32)
It's pretty easy to tell which one is Thayer Hall. That arm swing is deadly.
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Post by g8rvball on Dec 22, 2017 17:22:45 GMT -5
How good are these incoming freshmen? Gonna try to throw some videos together for you.
Here's one of Haley Warner last year. (Ozark 17-1/#32)
It's pretty easy to tell which one is Thayer Hall. That arm swing is deadly.
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Post by volleyca on Dec 24, 2017 10:03:13 GMT -5
No tea no shade on Huskey but I have to agree with the previous posts. Yes, her blocking numbers are impressive but what else is going for her? I think she is very lucky to play at Florida as I think she would not be playing at other top schools in power 5 conferences
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 24, 2017 12:11:33 GMT -5
No tea no shade on Huskey but I have to agree with the previous posts. Yes, her blocking numbers are impressive but what else is going for her? I think she is very lucky to play at Florida as I think she would not be playing at other top schools in power 5 conferences In 2015, Abby Detering was at Florida. Mainly played as a serving sub for Rhamat until Dagostino went down with a concussion part of the way through the Missouri match (a five set match that Florida lost). Her location was bad and so was her decision making. Allie was going to be the setter in 2016 because of her location and back row defense (result=led the nation in assists per set) and Cheyenne was coming in for her freshman year meaning there would be three setters on the roster and Abby would still be the backup. She transfers to Penn State and after trading time with Bryanna in the beginning of the season in 2016, wins the starting job. Then helps led one of the best offenses in the country in 2017 and gets all the way to the Final Four. Every person has their role within a team. Your role on one team might be different than your role on another. Cheyenne did what was needed of her and you can't argue with a national championship appearance, because they certainly wouldn't have gotten there without her (huge blocks in the fifth set of USC and Stanford). Her setting isn't perfect (though it's a lot better than it was at the beginning of the season), but to say she wouldn't be playing at other top schools in the Power 5 is wrong. She'd definitely get opportunities. (Abby wasn't what they needed at Florida, but she was what they needed at Penn State.) |
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Post by nakedcrayon on Dec 24, 2017 12:20:55 GMT -5
No tea no shade on Huskey but I have to agree with the previous posts. Yes, her blocking numbers are impressive but what else is going for her? I think she is very lucky to play at Florida as I think she would not be playing at other top schools in power 5 conferences So she is lucky to play on the number 2 team in the nation and wouldn't play on other top teams in other conferences. Hey I know she isn't the best at location but that was one of the best tandem blocks against an outside hitter this entire season One of the jobs of coaches in charge of top ten programs is roster manipulation. Where other schools put out the best player at the position to compete. Other programs have to do what is best long term as well. See Kelly Hunter. Texas has been a top three program for the past ten years based upon roster manipulation and keeping talent in the program. See Butler for this season. Huskey should play and I wouldn't change anything from the setting position and have Marlee redshirt but that is my opinion |
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