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Post by Timeless on Oct 25, 2018 1:54:29 GMT -5
Well obviously your team would consist of 5 setters (if all on scholarship), 3 DS's and everyone else. that would leave you with 7 scholarships left.
Mine would be 2-3 setters, 10 DS'S!, 9-10 scholarships left. looks like i win.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Oct 25, 2018 1:59:37 GMT -5
No I'm not missing the point of your post. You are missing the point of the concept. What is the point in keeping that much on a roster regardless if they are "quality" or not. What purpose does it serve to have that many DS's on a roster plain and simple? Again would you keep five setters on a roster even if they are all quality? NO! It does come down to reps and practice time because the more people you have on your roster, in the gym, the less reps, court time and practice time each player will get. They can practice on their own? Really which of these players at the collegiate level "practices" on their own. Between practices, strength training, and school do you think they are going to go out and practice on their own. These are college kids they are going to use that spare time for studies/homework, social and recreational activities, not to practice on their own. i already said 10 is too much and i was being sarcastic in saying that from the beginning. As for having 5 setters on a team, that is different. Setters are more skilled players than DS's and you would want to have more reps and court time with LESS players. DS's only job is to pass and dig, so why does it hutt to have more? whats so wrong about it they don't count as a scholarship player nor do they count as a sub for BR player. Having five setters compared to an influx of DS's is not different, it's extra players that is not needed that is taking reps and practice time away from the rest. It's the SAME CONCEPT. Doesn't matter if one position is more "skilled" than another. They don't count as a sub? Yes they do unless they are wearing the libero jersey. Only liberos don't count as subs, if they go in as a DS it definitely does count as a sub.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Oct 25, 2018 2:01:45 GMT -5
Well obviously your team would consist of 5 setters (if all on scholarship), 3 DS's and everyone else. that would leave you with 7 scholarships left. Mine would be 2-3 setters, 10 DS'S!, 9-10 scholarships left. looks like i win. What kind of gibberish is this?
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Post by Timeless on Oct 25, 2018 2:29:24 GMT -5
Well obviously your team would consist of 5 setters (if all on scholarship), 3 DS's and everyone else. that would leave you with 7 scholarships left. Mine would be 2-3 setters, 10 DS'S!, 9-10 scholarships left. looks like i win. What kind of gibberish is this? you said it yourself It's the SAME CONCEPT. Doesn't matter if one position is more "skilled" than another. Read more: volleytalk.proboards.com/post/1947921/quote/74945?page=16#ixzz5UvSIt0ik
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Post by hwnstunner on Oct 25, 2018 2:41:00 GMT -5
Well obviously your team would consist of 5 setters (if all on scholarship), 3 DS's and everyone else. that would leave you with 7 scholarships left. Mine would be 2-3 setters, 10 DS'S!, 9-10 scholarships left. looks like i win. What kind of gibberish is this? Not worth the time friend.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Oct 25, 2018 2:49:36 GMT -5
By calling your post GIBERRISH it has nothing to do with this! It's referring to the immaturity of your post! Get a clue!
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Post by kolohekeiki on Oct 25, 2018 2:53:22 GMT -5
What kind of gibberish is this? Not worth the time friend. I know...I'm just not willing to lie down and die and let these posters take over our boards. I'm going to stick up for all our knowledgable posters that have stopped posting because of these trolls
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Post by Timeless on Oct 25, 2018 3:00:57 GMT -5
By calling your post GIBERRISH it has nothing to do with this! It's referring to the immaturity of your post! Get a clue! lol how am i being immature? Im not sure why you're getting so mad... were you ds that happen to get cut or something?
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Post by raian13 on Oct 25, 2018 6:41:06 GMT -5
By calling your post GIBERRISH it has nothing to do with this! It's referring to the immaturity of your post! Get a clue! lol how am i being immature? Im not sure why you're getting so mad... were you ds that happen to get cut or something? Not worth the time buddy. You call them out and they call you troll, noob, or non-knowledgeable of the sport. Didn’t know everyone on here are pro-coaches.
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Post by baytree on Oct 25, 2018 10:10:43 GMT -5
lol how am i being immature? Im not sure why you're getting so mad... were you ds that happen to get cut or something? Not worth the time buddy. You call them out and they call you troll, noob, or non-knowledgeable of the sport. Didn’t know everyone on here are pro-coaches. burned's post made no sense. Here is what he said: Well obviously your team would consist of 5 setters (if all on scholarship), 3 DS's and everyone else. that would leave you with 7 scholarships left.
Mine would be 2-3 setters, 10 DS'S!, 9-10 scholarships left. looks like i win.
It's all made up BS. No one said they'd have 5 scholarship setters, 3 DSes and everyone else. If you had 5 setters, at least 3 of them would be non-scholarship. 5 scholarships for setters is completely pulled out of someone's ass to avoid dealing with the issue that was raised. And the idea that your DSes are just ppl without skills who you just throw on the court (so they don't need to practice with the team) is laughable. You plan your defense (including blocking) in large part around the strengths and weaknesses of your back row personnel. That includes the DSes, all of whom have different strengths and weaknesses. (E.g., Is one of them really short? Maybe she shouldn't be in the middle back.) I try to give every poster the benefit of the doubt but what burned is saying here is so uninformed that it seems like he's trolling. He's definitely just making stuff up here. And he said earlier that his example of 10 DSes wasn't serious. So why should anyone take anything else he's saying here seriously? It seems like he just wants to stir %*$# instead of having a useful discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 11:36:29 GMT -5
I noticed that if UH recruits a lefty, the(UH) would have another offensive weapon in the front row? Huh? What is this suppose to mean? Wouldn't a right hander be just as much an offensive weapon as a lefty? This makes no sense what are you trying to say? One of the announcers on tv during UH matches said that If you don't have a lefty on your team, it's harder to block them than a righty?
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Post by baytree on Oct 25, 2018 11:48:04 GMT -5
Huh? What is this suppose to mean? Wouldn't a right hander be just as much an offensive weapon as a lefty? This makes no sense what are you trying to say? One of the announcers on tv during UH matches said that If you don't have a lefty on your team, it's harder to block them than a righty? They were making the point that it's harder to know how to deal with a lefty if your team doesn't practice against one. But that doesn't necessarily mean that a lefty opposite is better than a righty opposite or that a lefty will be better offensively than a righty. If all other things are equal, a lefty will have the advantage you mentioned (against teams that don't have a lefty) but other things are never exactly equal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 11:57:36 GMT -5
Not worth the time buddy. You call them out and they call you troll, noob, or non-knowledgeable of the sport. Didn’t know everyone on here are pro-coaches. burned's post made no sense. Here is what he said: Well obviously your team would consist of 5 setters (if all on scholarship), 3 DS's and everyone else. that would leave you with 7 scholarships left.
Mine would be 2-3 setters, 10 DS'S!, 9-10 scholarships left. looks like i win.
It's all made up BS. No one said they'd have 5 scholarship setters, 3 DSes and everyone else. If you had 5 setters, at least 3 of them would be non-scholarship. 5 scholarships for setters is completely pulled out of someone's ass to avoid dealing with the issue that was raised. And the idea that your DSes are just ppl without skills who you just throw on the court (so they don't need to practice with the team) is laughable. You plan your defense (including blocking) in large part around the strengths and weaknesses of your back row personnel. That includes the DSes, all of whom have different strengths and weaknesses. (E.g., Is one of them really short? Maybe she shouldn't be in the middle back.) I try to give every poster the benefit of the doubt but what burned is saying here is so uninformed that it seems like he's trolling. He's definitely just making stuff up here. And he said earlier that his example of 10 DSes wasn't serious. So why should anyone take anything else he's saying here seriously? It seems like he just wants to stir %*$# instead of having a useful discussion. To "burned": this entire gibberish-filled, BS-laden deal has been reported. You seem to feel (I'm Not going to used the word 'think', 'cos you don't) you are Teflon. Aren't!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 12:06:21 GMT -5
One of the announcers on tv during UH matches said that If you don't have a lefty on your team, it's harder to block them than a righty? They were making the point that it's harder to know how to deal with a lefty if your team doesn't practice against one. But that doesn't necessarily mean that a lefty opposite is better than a righty opposite or that a lefty will be better offensively than a righty. If all other things are equal, a lefty will have the advantage you mentioned (against teams that don't have a lefty) but other things are never exactly equal. What about a lefty setter vs righty? I would think the lefty has more opportunities offensive wise.
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Post by Timeless on Oct 25, 2018 13:29:40 GMT -5
Not worth the time buddy. You call them out and they call you troll, noob, or non-knowledgeable of the sport. Didn’t know everyone on here are pro-coaches. burned's post made no sense. Here is what he said: Well obviously your team would consist of 5 setters (if all on scholarship), 3 DS's and everyone else. that would leave you with 7 scholarships left.
Mine would be 2-3 setters, 10 DS'S!, 9-10 scholarships left. looks like i win.
It's all made up BS. No one said they'd have 5 scholarship setters, 3 DSes and everyone else. If you had 5 setters, at least 3 of them would be non-scholarship. 5 scholarships for setters is completely pulled out of someone's ass to avoid dealing with the issue that was raised. And the idea that your DSes are just ppl without skills who you just throw on the court (so they don't need to practice with the team) is laughable. You plan your defense (including blocking) in large part around the strengths and weaknesses of your back row personnel. That includes the DSes, all of whom have different strengths and weaknesses. (E.g., Is one of them really short? Maybe she shouldn't be in the middle back.) I try to give every poster the benefit of the doubt but what burned is saying here is so uninformed that it seems like he's trolling. He's definitely just making stuff up here. And he said earlier that his example of 10 DSes wasn't serious. So why should anyone take anything else he's saying here seriously? It seems like he just wants to stir %*$# instead of having a useful discussion. When Hawaii fans get mad and think they know everything they get salty and resort to pettiness by calling posters trolls
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